Spliting Stereo Into Mono

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MCL
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Spliting Stereo Into Mono

Post by MCL » Fri Aug 26, 2016 3:21 pm

Can Live 9 split a stereo track into mono? I'm mean REALLY split the two channels into separate tracks? I've seen a forum posting about using Utility to pan the channels, but I'm talking about actually creating two separate audio tracks, one from the left channel and one from the right. I can do it in Pro Tools easily with a right click, but for this project I'd like to work strictly within Live. I've also looked on YouTube, and there's nothing about this that I can find. Thanks.

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Re: Spliting Stereo Into Mono

Post by chrk » Fri Aug 26, 2016 7:59 pm

MCL wrote: I've seen a forum posting about using Utility to pan the channels
Don't pan but use Utilty's channel mode chooser (below the gain knob) to play left/right channel of a track.
MCL wrote:but I'm talking about actually creating two separate audio tracks, one from the left channel and one from the right
Unfortunately recorded clips through Live's internal routing inevitably produces stereo samples, no matter if the source is a stereo or mono signal.

There's a very roundabout way to produce mono samples through the export dialogue, but then it's quicker to use an external editor (Wavelab, Soundforge...) to split samples.

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Re: Spliting Stereo Into Mono

Post by Stromkraft » Sat Aug 27, 2016 10:16 am

MCL wrote:Can Live 9 split a stereo track into mono?
Not to actual Mono files as Live does not support that, just "fake" mono with a stereo files with identical signals at half volume that sums to the mono signal. In all practice this works fine within Live, but won't work when exporting files, so you'd still need to convert to real mono files outside of Live.
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Re: Spliting Stereo Into Mono

Post by chrk » Sat Aug 27, 2016 12:32 pm

Stromkraft wrote:..., but won't work when exporting files, so you'd still need to convert to real mono files outside of Live.
That is not quite true. The export dialogue has a "Convert to Mono" option: Audio Rendering Options. This is the "roundabout way, I was talking about above.

Of course it is not splitting to mono, but actually summing to mono, and I think there's an attenuation of 3 dB per channel (need to check).

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Re: Spliting Stereo Into Mono

Post by Stromkraft » Sun Aug 28, 2016 9:07 pm

chrk wrote:
Stromkraft wrote:..., but won't work when exporting files, so you'd still need to convert to real mono files outside of Live.
That is not quite true. The export dialogue has a "Convert to Mono" option: Audio Rendering Options. This is the "roundabout way, I was talking about above.

Of course it is not splitting to mono, but actually summing to mono, and I think there's an attenuation of 3 dB per channel (need to check).
I thought we were talking about being within Live as well about splitting channels?
Yes, it's summing to mono, but it's not splitting the left and right channels inside of Live to 2 new mono tracks as all mono tracks within Live are Dual Mono tracks. You could get 2 Dual Mono tracks with, from the source track, left being one and right the other by panning trough a bus and making recordings of each.
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Re: Spliting Stereo Into Mono

Post by MCL » Sun Aug 28, 2016 11:00 pm

Thanks guys. Seems odd Live can't do this, but I can use your suggestions as workarounds.

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Re: Spliting Stereo Into Mono

Post by fishmonkey » Sun Aug 28, 2016 11:13 pm

basically a third party audio tool is the way to go....

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