How do I slip audio in the arrangement page?

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keyman_sam
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How do I slip audio in the arrangement page?

Post by keyman_sam » Mon Sep 12, 2016 6:13 am

I'd like to slip the audio within a bunch of clips together so that it moves left or right without changing clip position. The clips are unwarped. Is there any way to achieve this?

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Re: How do I slip audio in the arrangement page?

Post by Stromkraft » Mon Sep 12, 2016 7:32 am

keyman_sam wrote:I'd like to slip the audio within a bunch of clips together so that it moves left or right without changing clip position. The clips are unwarped. Is there any way to achieve this?
That's unfortunately akin to saying you want to move the clips without moving them, so I'd say no, there isn't a way.

If you beat warp the clips you can change start and end points which of course affect timing. Unless you change tempo beat warping nulls, meaning that if you make a nullification test you can prove to yourself that this does not detriment audio quality even the slightest.
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Re: How do I slip audio in the arrangement page?

Post by csl » Mon Sep 12, 2016 8:41 am

Do you mean like when you hold alt and move the start marker? So that you can shift the clip audio 'window' without adjusting clip start/end points?

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Re: How do I slip audio in the arrangement page?

Post by Stromkraft » Mon Sep 12, 2016 3:07 pm

csl wrote:Do you mean like when you hold alt and move the start marker? So that you can shift the clip audio 'window' without adjusting clip start/end points?

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You mean the Cmd (OS X) or Ctrl (Windows) key.
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This do work with non-warped audio so is a great suggestion. I personally find messing with the start marker extremely confusing though, but it may be what keyman_sam needs.



If you Warp you can also just grab the Loop Brace and move it backwards and forwards.

I much prefer to set the loop start and end points instead and let the start marker be the same as the loop start. But then I believe that beat-warping does not affect audio unless you change tempo. If you do your non-warped audio tracks would be out of sync anyway, so I don't see that this applies here.

All one has to do is to prove to oneself that beatwarping doesn't affect audio quality, by making nullification tests, If it nulls there isn't a problem.
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Re: How do I slip audio in the arrangement page?

Post by keyman_sam » Tue Sep 13, 2016 4:20 am

csl wrote:Do you mean like when you hold alt and move the start marker? So that you can shift the clip audio 'window' without adjusting clip start/end points?
Actually just moving the start marker without any modifier, works.

Now, how do I do that with multiple tracks at once? For say, multi-track recordings?

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Re: How do I slip audio in the arrangement page?

Post by Stromkraft » Tue Sep 13, 2016 9:01 am

keyman_sam wrote:
csl wrote:Do you mean like when you hold alt and move the start marker? So that you can shift the clip audio 'window' without adjusting clip start/end points?
Actually just moving the start marker without any modifier, works.
What Cmd or Ctrl does in this case is overriding the grid if you have this active in warped tracks.

However, what I said about alt was not correct. In unwarped tracks (as well as in warped) alt moves both the start marker and the end marker together, which may or may not be useful. After all an unwarped clip can't be looped. Without alt you just move the start marker or end marker individually, which may of course be problem free if you never will warp or loop the clip.
keyman_sam wrote: Now, how do I do that with multiple tracks at once? For say, multi-track recordings?
Well, start and end markers look MIDI mappable. You could possibly map multiple markers to the same controller.
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Re: How do I slip audio in the arrangement page?

Post by [jur] » Tue Sep 13, 2016 9:47 am

Unfortunately you can't do it with multiple clips.
The start/end markers are midi mapable yes, but it works globally i.e on the selected clip.
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