Setting in ableton , what is right in volym?

[Mazi92]

Hi! , I would like to get help with a thing and would appreciate your help

Problem is that my drum sample bit are 16 bit so I don't know if it is possible to change the setting in ableton have the same rate.

Do somebody have knowledge about this? or tips and tricks, Because I am making a track and try to adjusting the volume, then I came to a problem that the sample bit(or rate?) is 16 on the drum samples. In the track I use omniesphere and the native plugin in Ableton which, I understand it is 24 bit on the plugin?


I Would be grateful if someone knows more knowledge then me to tell if I have understand everything right and how can I just volym better? because everything does sound weird. What am I doing wrong?

( I use Ableton suite and drum samples are sampled from sp 1200 )

Thanks

[Stromkraft]

Hi! , I would like to get help with a thing and would appreciate your help :)

Problem is that my drum sample bit are 16 bit so I don't know if it is possible to change the setting in ableton have the same rate.

What is the volume you want t have on this track? RMS or peak?

"Rate" most often means "sample rate", the amount of taken samples per time unit. I assume you might mean bit depth as you talk about 16bit. With a 16bit sample you don't have to change the settings in the Live instrument even though you can, but you might want to make sure it has optimum levels to begin with, i e at recording. This is not as important as when recording 24bit samples. You can normalize in prep work and if it sounds good with that it likely sounds good also in Simpler or Sampler that I assume you mean with "native"? Or is it Impulse or even just an audio clip?

A well sounding 16bit kick sample I have looks like this (in Ocenaudio)


The actual level in Simpler is governed with the "Gain" parameter (in Sampler with "Vol") of the individual sample —which may make normalizing an unnecessary step — or the volume parameter of the whole instrument. Amplitude envelopes also affect volume.

Watch out for interpolate settings if you change the playback rate to something much different than the original. Look for the root key parameter in Sampler and in Simpler I think it defaults to C3, so if you're playing a C2 it will get a lower pitch and a C4 will be a higher pitched playback.

Also note that even if the sample is 16bits the audio stream is always 32bits inside Live.

[Mazi92]

thanks for the answer

Yeah I mean bit depth.

I always use drum rack for my drums. By default I use simpler.
Note: The kick sample have a bought not sampled it myself maybe sounded like that before.


If I understand it right it doesn't make any diffrence what bit rate it is on every sound I use?
( I have little knowledge about bit depth and volym everybody saying difference things haha )


Ok so in ableton every sound I use , Do Ableton convert it to 32 bits?

I want for my tracks have a rms between -7 to -12 rms rate and reference I use is drake - 9 song.

I use simple rms ( do have any better plugins to show rms for ableton )

I appreciates the help

[Stromkraft]

If I understand it right it doesn't make any diffrence what bit rate it is on every sound I use?

Not really, but the fewer the bits the more important it is with a normalized source, preferably already at recording. After 24 bits it doesn't matter as much, if at all.

Ok so in ableton every sound I use , Do Ableton convert it to 32 bits?

In real time in the audio stream. Not inside Simpler. It just takes the sample as it is.

I want for my tracks have a rms between -7 to -12 rms rate and reference I use is drake - 9 song.

I use simple rms ( do have any better plugins to show rms for ableton )

I've come to rely on Sonalksis FreeG Fader Plug-in.

[Mazi92]

Thanks again!

If I understand it right it doesn't make any diffrence what bit rate it is on every sound I use?

Not really, but the fewer the bits the more important it is with a normalized source, preferably already at recording. After 24 bits it doesn't matter as much, if at all.

Ok so in ableton every sound I use , Do Ableton convert it to 32 bits?

In real time in the audio stream. Not inside Simpler. It just takes the sample as it is.


Ok do you know how to make everything be in 16 bit whatever i use in ableton?

[Stromkraft]

Ok do you know how to make everything be in 16 bit whatever i use in ableton?

You can set the Bit Depth of Record, under Record Warp Launch in Preferences, which sets recordings, and storage thereof, to 16. The audio inside Live is still 32bit and summing is 64bit no matter what.

Except for size there are no upsides for 16bit projects AFAICT, only downsides.