MIDI Request

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Greeky
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MIDI Request

Post by Greeky » Mon Dec 12, 2016 8:28 pm

Hi, I'm having troubles with my MIDI connexion.

I use ABLETON LIVE with a Novation LAUNCHKEYMINI, I have also got a KORG VOLCA SAMPLE.

I use a soundcard, focusrite, whatever, the korg is pluged in it, and the KORG is also connected with the computer VIA MIDI Cable.

How do I have to connect all my material because when I launch clips they don't directly fit with the KORG VOLCA I always have to tick/untick some SYNC cases in the MIDI Preferences of ableton live..


Please help me I'm not good at it and I cant find a solution, for now the korg goes in INPUT 1 of the soundcard, it is also synced to the computer via a midi cable, the midi cable has got 2 MIDI Plugs in / Out and also has got a USB plug.

I'm not doing something wrong ? I do have to connect the korg with the computer and no need to MIDI connect to the soundcard ? If i'm just with this it's just a problem ticking the "SYNC" cases in MIDI preferences.

There's also those two functions at the top left of ableton : "LINK" or "EXTERNAL"

I can't understand wich one do I have to tick if i just want my KORG to be sent on the same MIDI clock than the pattern I have in the ableton mixers and that I play with my Novation launchkey.

Hope I was clear enought

THANKS ! ;)

Greeky
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Re: MIDI Request

Post by Greeky » Thu Dec 15, 2016 10:18 am

Up ??

Greeky
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Re: MIDI Request

Post by Greeky » Fri Dec 30, 2016 7:54 pm

Nobody can help me ?

twistedkeys
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Re: MIDI Request

Post by twistedkeys » Sat Dec 31, 2016 8:18 pm

Greeky wrote:Nobody can help me ?
Let's see if I can help out. I am not familiar with your equipment but I have done something like this before so I hope this works for you. First, let's connect everything: focusrite and and launch key connected to your computer using usb, you will need 2 available usb ports on computer. Connect Midi out from focusrite to Volca Midi In. Connect Volca Audio out to Focusrite Audio in. Set Midi Sync on Volca to auto to make it a slave device which means it will sync up with Live's tempo. Now on Live's Midi Setup, activate the Sync switch on focusrite midi out. This should send midi clock from Live to Volca. Hope this helps!

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Re: MIDI Request

Post by Greeky » Mon Jan 02, 2017 12:45 pm

Oh thanks ! Well yes I made everything like you said but I still got 2 questions:

- For the MIDI cable do I have to connect it from the KORG to the SOUNDCARD or from the KORG to the COMPUTER ?
- On the TOP right corner of Ableton Live software do I have to tick LINK or EXT ?

Thank you :)

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Re: MIDI Request

Post by Tagor » Mon Jan 02, 2017 1:54 pm

it depends

does your computer have a built-in midi connection (input) ?
if not i would try the soundcard..

twistedkeys
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Re: MIDI Request

Post by twistedkeys » Mon Jan 02, 2017 2:38 pm

Greeky wrote: - For the MIDI cable do I have to connect it from the KORG to the SOUNDCARD or from the KORG to the COMPUTER ?
I'd say connect it to the souncard if you have one, if not, connect it to your computer if it has midi input. I don't think volca has USB port so you can't connect it straight to computer via usb.
Greeky wrote: - On the TOP right corner of Ableton Live software do I have to tick LINK or EXT ?
No need to tick any of them.

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Re: MIDI Request

Post by Greeky » Tue Jan 03, 2017 12:43 pm

Well first thank you for your fast answers. I tryed what you told me to do but I was right, there's no MIDI SYNC when I only Sync the KORG to the Soundcard so I have to connect it to the computer, wich is logic in a way because the software that generates the MIDI signal is on the computer.

Well I still cannot beat this fu**** pannel filled in with PISTE / SYNC / TELECH aarrgg

twistedkeys
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Re: MIDI Request

Post by twistedkeys » Tue Jan 03, 2017 6:07 pm

What kind of sound card or audio interface? Most of them should send midi clock to other devices connect d via Midi? How are you connecting volca to computer? I checked volca and it seems it does not have usb port so you must be connecting it via midi on your computer internal sound card? Also make sure that you set volca to be slave, so it should only accept midi clock.

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Re: MIDI Request

Post by Greeky » Wed Jan 04, 2017 5:49 pm

I'm using a FOCUSRITE 6i6 but I do not think the problem comes from it

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Re: MIDI Request

Post by Greeky » Wed Jan 04, 2017 5:56 pm

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I think the problem comes from this MIDI preferences menu. I dont know wich slots to tick..

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Re: MIDI Request

Post by Greeky » Wed Jan 04, 2017 7:09 pm

I actually have no Idea of how to configure this section can't understand :/

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Re: MIDI Request

Post by twistedkeys » Thu Jan 05, 2017 12:45 pm

Greeky wrote:Image
I think the problem comes from this MIDI preferences menu. I dont know wich slots to tick..
From your screenshot, it seems that you have Scarlett audio interface, LaunchKey and internal computer soundcard with 1 MIDI In & 2 MIDI outs. From what I recall, Volca is connected to your soundcard via MIDI so it's connected to either USB-2.0 MIDI or USB-2.0 MIDI (Port 2) outputs. So from your screenshot, MIDI Ports, 2nd column under Sync, turn off all the buttons except the last two entries; Output: USB-2.0 MIDI & Output: USB-2.0 MIDI (Port 2). This will have Live sending MIDI clock to Volca synchronizing Live's tempo. Make sure the Volca's clock is set to 'Auto' instead of 'Internal' so it will follow Live's tempo. Hope this helps!

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Re: MIDI Request

Post by timday » Thu Jan 05, 2017 2:01 pm

OK so

1) The volca has no USB so it will be connected via a MIDI cable, I guess via the Scarlett unless you have a USB-> MIDI cable in one of the computer's USB ports. Volcas only have MIDI in so the MIDI will be going from Live to the Volca and will be an output in Live's MIDI preferences.
2) Whichever port it is connected to, you should have the sync button lit up on that MIDI out, that will put the MIDI clocks in time. As above.

Generally the track button sends/receives notes and controller data, the sync button times up the clocks, and the remote button is for Live's MIDI learn function which is generally only used on inputs. If you only want the sync function you only need to have the sync button lit up.

It is also possible if you use an external instrument to sequence the Volca direct from Live which avoids the whole issue. I find the volca's memory of only 8 sequences to be a bit limiting so I tend to use this method. There is a max for live device called J74 that will let you MIDI control almost all of a Volca's parameters from live, which you can get here. http://fabriziopoce.com/volcacontrol.html

Alternatively you can set up a drum rack to do it as in this thread viewtopic.php?f=1&t=222049 (or just use a piano roll clip).

The Max device is probably the easiest to use but has a small cost.

For both those options you will want the track button lit up, the sync is not necessary if you aren't using the Volca's sequencer. If you're doing this and you do decide to leave the sync on you will probably want to clear one of the Volca's memories or it will start playing whatever is in the memory instead of what you have in Live. I generally have the first memory slot blank on my Volca beats and keys for this reason.

Finally the Volca's own sync out/in is just a series of audio pulses on 1/8 notes. I have found that if you record the Volca's sync out signal as audio into Live (just connect a lead from the Volca's sync out into one of your audio ins and record it), use warping to time it up and make sure that the pulses are on 1/8ths, you can then send this as a sync in signal via the Volca's sync in port and it will synchronise the volca. This has the advantage that you can use the Volca internal sequencer (assuming that is what you'd like to do) but it is very easy to go half time/double time etc by using the half time/double time buttons on the audio clip. If you're doing this you don't need to worry about MIDI sync at all as you are using the Volca's sync pulse input which is not MIDI.

Lots of things to play with really.

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Re: MIDI Request

Post by Greeky » Thu Jan 05, 2017 5:56 pm

Hi ! Well first thank you for this long response, i'll try to set this up later i'm at work right now :mrgreen: (mmmhhh.. not good thinking of ableton at work haha)

I do have a USB/MIDI cable to connect my KORG via midi to the USB input of the computer. But I do have a simple MIDI cable too. Wictch one would you advice me to use, to connect it to the computer via USB MIDI or to the Soundcard VIA MIDI ?
In deed I didn't precise but the port named USB 2.0 MIDI corresponds to the Volca.

I am going to try what you told me later and i'll let you inform thanks a lot !!!! Hope this time it will be good you'll make me happy like a kid :D

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