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benihana33
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latency issues

Post by benihana33 » Thu Jan 12, 2017 11:23 pm

Hey guys,
I know you probably get this a lot, but I'm having issues with latency in Ableton Live Intro. I have an Acer Aspire V15 Nitro Black Edition, with 16GB of ram, an i7 processor, and an Nvidia GeForce GTX 960M graphics card. So I don't see how my computer could be lacking, and when I mess around with Ableton the CPU load meter doesn't even get above %50 when I play the test tone. I've tried adjusting the in/out and haven't noticed any difference when I do (other than the sound becoming really bad when I get to a high sample rate. No change in latency though). I've gotten ASIO for my driver, but after getting the trial version of Reason, I'm having the same latency issue there too. Also, I'm having the same latency from what I can tell when I use a midi controller, or when I just use the keys on my computer keyboard. I've tried unchecking the delay compensation. The latency isn't much, but as a piano player, it's enough to render Ableton inoperable as a live instrument.

Does anybody have any ideas as to what's causing the latency issues?

Stromkraft
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Re: latency issues

Post by Stromkraft » Fri Jan 13, 2017 4:36 am

benihana33 wrote:Hey guys,
I know you probably get this a lot, but I'm having issues with latency in Ableton Live Intro. I have an Acer Aspire V15 Nitro Black Edition, with 16GB of ram, an i7 processor, and an Nvidia GeForce GTX 960M graphics card. So I don't see how my computer could be lacking, and when I mess around with Ableton the CPU load meter doesn't even get above %50 when I play the test tone. I've tried adjusting the in/out and haven't noticed any difference when I do (other than the sound becoming really bad when I get to a high sample rate. No change in latency though). I've gotten ASIO for my driver, but after getting the trial version of Reason, I'm having the same latency issue there too. Also, I'm having the same latency from what I can tell when I use a midi controller, or when I just use the keys on my computer keyboard. I've tried unchecking the delay compensation. The latency isn't much, but as a piano player, it's enough to render Ableton inoperable as a live instrument.

Does anybody have any ideas as to what's causing the latency issues?
Power saving settings most likely. Look into resetting these in BIOS.

Other aspect is the audio interface. You don't mention it.
Make some music!

albieg
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Re: latency issues

Post by albieg » Fri Jan 13, 2017 7:07 am

You adjusted presumably the sample rate. What about buffer size? You adjust that in the ASIO driver. A buffer size of 512 samples at 44100 rates will introduce a latency of 11.6 ms, and that's already a lot for good piano players. You installed the Asio Driver for your (unmentioned) soundcard. Did you also select the ASIO driver in Ableton Audio Preferences, or are you working with the MME/DirectX driver, which has a latency of 99.2 ms?

I apologise for this basic answer, but there are important information missing in your description about the problem you're experiencing and about how you set up your computer, and that leaves a good amount of different possibilities open.

benihana33
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Re: latency issues

Post by benihana33 » Sat Jan 14, 2017 4:16 am

albieg wrote:You adjusted presumably the sample rate. What about buffer size? You adjust that in the ASIO driver. A buffer size of 512 samples at 44100 rates will introduce a latency of 11.6 ms, and that's already a lot for good piano players. You installed the Asio Driver for your (unmentioned) soundcard. Did you also select the ASIO driver in Ableton Audio Preferences, or are you working with the MME/DirectX driver, which has a latency of 99.2 ms?

I apologise for this basic answer, but there are important information missing in your description about the problem you're experiencing and about how you set up your computer, and that leaves a good amount of different possibilities open.
Thank you, this is really helpful! I'm pretty new to all this. My sound card is an nvidia virtual audio device (wave extensible) (wdm), and yeah, I've already selevted the ASIO driver in Ableton :P . I've adjusted the in/out sample rate to 88200 and the buffer size to 128 samples, so the preferences in Ableton is calculating a latency of 10.9 ms, but when I play notes on my computer keyboard through Ableton, I hear the same latency as when I set the buffer size to 64 or 512 samples.

Also, I'm not using an audio interface. My midi controller operates just with usb. But to figure out this latency issue I havent even been using the controller, just the keyboard on my computer.

benihana33
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Re: latency issues

Post by benihana33 » Sat Jan 14, 2017 4:21 am

Stromkraft wrote:
benihana33 wrote:Hey guys,
I know you probably get this a lot, but I'm having issues with latency in Ableton Live Intro. I have an Acer Aspire V15 Nitro Black Edition, with 16GB of ram, an i7 processor, and an Nvidia GeForce GTX 960M graphics card. So I don't see how my computer could be lacking, and when I mess around with Ableton the CPU load meter doesn't even get above %50 when I play the test tone. I've tried adjusting the in/out and haven't noticed any difference when I do (other than the sound becoming really bad when I get to a high sample rate. No change in latency though). I've gotten ASIO for my driver, but after getting the trial version of Reason, I'm having the same latency issue there too. Also, I'm having the same latency from what I can tell when I use a midi controller, or when I just use the keys on my computer keyboard. I've tried unchecking the delay compensation. The latency isn't much, but as a piano player, it's enough to render Ableton inoperable as a live instrument.

Does anybody have any ideas as to what's causing the latency issues?
Power saving settings most likely. Look into resetting these in BIOS.

Other aspect is the audio interface. You don't mention it.
Thanks for your help! I'm not using an audio interface at the moment. Where can I go to find out how to reset the power savings settings in my BIOS?

Stromkraft
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Re: latency issues

Post by Stromkraft » Sat Jan 14, 2017 6:15 am

benihana33 wrote: I'm not using an audio interface at the moment. /quote]
OK. I think that's a mistake though.
benihana33 wrote: Where can I go to find out how to reset the power savings settings in my BIOS?
I'd assume in your Aspire manual? You can search for DPC latency and see some advice here in the forums too.
Make some music!

benihana33
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Re: latency issues

Post by benihana33 » Sat Jan 14, 2017 6:45 am

Stromkraft wrote:
benihana33 wrote: I'm not using an audio interface at the moment. /quote]
OK. I think that's a mistake though.

Do you think not having an audio interface could be causing the latency, or will I just have lower quality sound?
benihana33 wrote: Where can I go to find out how to reset the power savings settings in my BIOS?
I'd assume in your Aspire manual? You can search for DPC latency and see some advice here in the forums too.
Awesome, thanks, I'll check that out.

yentzee
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Re: latency issues

Post by yentzee » Sat Jan 14, 2017 7:05 am

Not sure if mentioned before but when having lots of plugins in your signal path latency goes up really fast. No fix to this

NoSonic822
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Re: latency issues

Post by NoSonic822 » Sat Jan 14, 2017 7:30 am

the latency is caused by large buffer size....the larger you make the buffer size, the more latency there will be.

albieg
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Re: latency issues

Post by albieg » Sat Jan 14, 2017 8:35 am

Rather odd. From a pair of quick searches, I learned that Nvidia has a proprietary ASIO driver. If it's that that you're using, you can try switching to Asio4All and see if you get different results.

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