How to turn the knobs?

Patbos · Post by **Patbos** » Tue Sep 13, 2005 6:16 am

Hi!

If i have a soft-synt on a midichannel in live 5.
Say vanguard.

I have a midiclip that loops, a bassline for example.

How do I play the clip as a loop, and at the same time lets my midicontroller play with the vanguard.

If i switch the "auto" to "in" the clip stopps, but in auto, the controller wont work.

Help someone!

supster · Post by **supster** » Tue Sep 13, 2005 6:22 am

two instances of vanguard

one plays the loop. the other plays live
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Patbos · Post by **Patbos** » Tue Sep 13, 2005 8:12 am

What???

Isnt the program called LIVE?
Shouldnt this be a piece of cake for live to do?
Must be a way to turn the knobs in clip-mode!

Michael-SW · Post by **Michael-SW** » Tue Sep 13, 2005 8:27 am

You need to map the controller to the Vanguard's parameters.

mosca · Post by **mosca** » Tue Sep 13, 2005 8:55 am

set up another midi clip, record enable it (don't record anything tho), send the output of the 'blank' midi clip to the vanguard, hit play, twiddle your knobs

mosca

Angstrom · Post by **Angstrom** » Tue Sep 13, 2005 1:12 pm

This is way over complicating the solution!

you can use one channel for this if you want to twiddle filters and freeform over the top of a prerecorded set of clips.

How: just turn OVR off and record enable the track you want to play on ... that's it!

EG: FM7 playing chords clip one on midi track named "Fm7" - clip name " chunky chords", turn off OVR, record enable "Fm7" .. done!
Now when you click on a pre-recorded clip you will notice the arrow doesn't go red, but you can play the synth or twiddle the freq /settings / whatever.

Stupid Live instruments
With a VSTi .. you can hit OVR again if you want to add your twiddle permanently to the clip. Stupidly you cant do this with Live's own instruments and effects !!! stupid, stupid. That's why I stick with Fm7 over Operator

settle · Post by **settle** » Tue Sep 13, 2005 6:32 pm

sorry but it isnt that simple. ill just try to get better at drawing in the envelope veiw. just wish i could play this thing live.

Angstrom · Post by **Angstrom** » Tue Sep 13, 2005 9:23 pm

I'm sorry,
I don't understand. It is that simple .. I do this all the time.

if you are really talking about just playing the knobs rather than recording them.

do this:

* open live.
* turn OVR off (it's in the main transport bar)
* insert VSTi plugin to midi track
* set track to monitor 'Auto'
* arm track
* use VSTi interface to assign a controller to filter of VSTi
* click an empty clip slot to set a clip recording
* hammer on keys randomly
* click on same clip again - clip play button goes green
* turn the CC you assigned to VSTi filter

hear the filter move over the top of your pre-recorded random key stabbings??

I don't understand how this doesn't work for you.

I really can't do anything more .... other than come round to your house and move your hands around over the equipment!

settle · Post by **settle** » Wed Sep 14, 2005 3:14 am

i will try this when i have a midi controller. i have one but it is packed for moving. thanx for the help. very nice of u. ive been trying it without the midi controller(just the mouse pad on my laptop), to no avail. didnt try clicking auto though. ill try again.
thanx man
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