FORUM ADMIN

[aklisiewicz]

Why can't we upload or attach images, mp3 files etc in the forum posts ? Are we still in ancient times when only text is allowed ? I see we can post links to images but this is only god for those who have some kind of image hosting service (which I neither have or want to have).

Please allow file attachments !

[fishmonkey]

not gonna happen.

very few forums support direct uploading of media files, and for good reasons. it uses a lot of server bandwidth and storage space, which then needs to be managed and paid for. then there are the inevitable issues around illegal, inappropriate, or copyrighted content...

[aklisiewicz]

not sure if you are an Admin or not but here is what I think.
You statement - NOT TRUE. I use several forums where posting attachemnts is allowed and nobody sees any problem. If the admin is to lazy to manage it they every excuse is god enough. As far as server space you probably forgot that mp3 files are super small in size. Admin also has an ability to limit the single file size - it is not an issue at all. I've run phpBB in the past so I know what's possible....

ART

[fishmonkey]

not sure if you are an Admin or not but here is what I think.
You statement - NOT TRUE. I use several forums where posting attachemnts is allowed and nobody sees any problem. If the admin is to lazy to manage it they every excuse is god enough. As far as server space you probably forgot that mp3 files are super small in size. Admin also has an ability to limit the single file size - it is not an issue at all. I've run phpBB in the past so I know what's possible....

ART

Ableton doesn't even make the link to their forums public any more. do you think they are interested in dedicating more staff time to managing this place?

of course it's theoretically possible to do, however most forums don't allow it for the reasons i mentioned above. also, the legal issues are more problematic for a forum run by a business.

[aklisiewicz]

legal issues are not an Ableton problem. They just allow to use the forum and are not responsible for the posts. If somebody is afraid of plagiarism etc should simply not post any sounds. If somebody has sounds of unknown source should not post it. It is simple - WHY COMPLICATE LIFE SO MUCH IF WE CAN ALL GET AROUND IT EASILY ?
BTW. I do not care what other do or do not do, I do not care if other forums have certain feature or not. Because majority does something it doesn't mean it's right. Your negative thinking attracts more negative - think about it my friend.

[fishmonkey]

legal issues are not an Ableton problem. They just allow to use the forum and are not responsible for the posts. If somebody is afraid of plagiarism etc should simply not post any sounds. If somebody has sounds of unknown source should not post it. It is simple - WHY COMPLICATE LIFE SO MUCH IF WE CAN ALL GET AROUND IT EASILY ?
BTW. I do not care what other do or do not do, I do not care if other forums have certain feature or not. Because majority does something it doesn't mean it's right. Your negative thinking attracts more negative - think about it my friend.

there is a difference between being negative and being realistic about a situation. hosting content on the internets is a tricky business. here is one article on the subject:

http://www.ericgoldman.org/writings/web ... yalert.htm

and, you have to be living in la-la-land to think that people won't post problematic content. for example, how much time and energy do you think SoundCloud and Youtube spend dealing with copyright infringements and illegal content? i bet it is quite a lot.

your sage advice about negative thinking is pretty ironic considering some of your recent posts...

[yur2die4]

There is no reason to host content. People can always use links. It is 2017. Links are not that difficult to use. There are plenty of ways around requiring uploading.

I think the forums should have a feature that hides all forums with ALL CAPS subject lines. It's kind of annoying when random people barge in thinking their issues are more important than whatever else is also going on.

[[jur]]

Legal issues as pointed above.
Plus, mp3 sounds like shit so there's "no render to mp3" option in Live, and no mp3 hosting option on the forum either
More importantly, there's many dedicated website that works great for these things.

[TomKern]

Plus, mp3 sounds like shit so there's "no render to mp3" option in Live, and no mp3 hosting option on the forum either

Sure at 192 Kbit/s and below, but at 320?!
I never had any issues with them.
I feel this opinion is a remnant of the early years when 64 and 128 Kbit/s files were still common.

And that Live can't render mp3s is not nearly as annoying as it not playing mp3s is.

I usually don't work with other peoples music, but when I once wanted to use Live to make a nice mixtape, Live was busy for about an hour just transcoding all the tracks into huge .wav files (that obviously didn't have any better quality than the original mp3s.)

What a waste of time and space.

[[jur]]

Plus, mp3 sounds like shit so there's "no render to mp3" option in Live, and no mp3 hosting option on the forum either

Sure at 192 Kbit/s and below, but at 320?!
I never had any issues with them.
I feel this opinion is a remnant of the early years when 64 and 128 Kbit/s files were still common.

And that Live can't render mp3s is not nearly as annoying as it not playing mp3s is.

I usually don't work with other peoples music, but when I once wanted to use Live to make a nice mixtape, Live was busy for about an hour just transcoding all the tracks into huge .wav files (that obviously didn't have any better quality than the original mp3s.)

What a waste of time and space.

That was a joke, partially.
Live plays mp3s, and many other formats too, but yes it has to somehow decode or analyse it first. Frankly the time it can take is nothing compared to using e.g Pro Tools where you have to first convert an audio file to your session's audio format... and it's used everywhere for post-prod sound editing, figure that!

[TomKern]

Yeah I guess I would be happy with a limited use .mp3 option. I understand that some things probably don't work well with a compressed format.
Or I guess I can just suck it up and use Traktor for making mix tapes

[aklisiewicz]

Let me put it straight. I use number of other forums and many of them are based on phpBB (like this one). None of the admins has problem with IMAGES, AUDIO fiels or PDF files posted directly into the forum.
IT IS LAZINESS OF THIS FORUM ADMIN not to allow those simple features. That fact that I need some web hosting just to post links to my images here simply tells my that Ableton Forum Admin is really not up to the task of being administrator. No matter how well you protect it there is always risk of security but people who know what they doing know how to protect their system in case of hacking or failure.


- attaching images (JPG,GIF,PNG)
- attaching MP# files
- attaching PDF files
- embeding links to YouTube



I WANT THOSE FEATURES IMPLEMENTED or I WANT VOTE FOR A NEW FORUM ADMIN - period!

anybody else???

[yur2die4]

It's not laziness. You are expecting more from the forum than is necessary to expect.

The forum exists and it is easy to communicate. Files can easily be hosted via other means. If not, then the poster can always ask for advice and learn how to do such things. But for the most part, and altogether, I've never seen a case where it is necessary for the forum to host files.

[Tarekith]

I am a bit lazy, but it has nothing to do with why there is no file hosting here

[[jur]]

Vote for a new admin if you wish so...
But I think you'd better spend your time making music.
Peace.