disabling note on messages for Push encoders in User Mode

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thermalrust
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disabling note on messages for Push encoders in User Mode

Post by thermalrust » Tue Mar 28, 2017 9:57 pm

Is there any way to disable the note on messages that encoders on Push send in User Mode? I find them sending very low pitch notes to my armed MIDI instruments too often and it muddies up the mix. I'd still like to use them as knobs, just not send MIDI notes if possible.

Maybe there is a way to adjust the Push script?


[this is for Push 1 by the way, but I imagine this happens to users of Push 2 as well]


Thanks in advance for any help!

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Re: disabling note on messages for Push encoders in User Mode

Post by yur2die4 » Wed Mar 29, 2017 4:20 am

In midi preferences in Live try turning notes off for Push.

thermalrust
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Re: disabling note on messages for Push encoders in User Mode

Post by thermalrust » Wed Apr 05, 2017 5:19 am

do you mean Track, Sync or Remote? won't that make Push stop communicating correctly with Live?

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Re: disabling note on messages for Push encoders in User Mode

Post by metastatik » Wed Apr 05, 2017 3:22 pm

The Track switch. And, no, turning that off won't impact Push's default functionality at all. However, it will make it so you can't use the pads in User Mode for playing instruments.

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Re: disabling note on messages for Push encoders in User Mode

Post by Stromkraft » Wed Apr 05, 2017 5:19 pm

thermalrust wrote:Is there any way to disable the note on messages that encoders on Push send in User Mode? I find them sending very low pitch notes to my armed MIDI instruments too often and it muddies up the mix. I'd still like to use them as knobs, just not send MIDI notes if possible.

Maybe there is a way to adjust the Push script?


[this is for Push 1 by the way, but I imagine this happens to users of Push 2 as well]


Thanks in advance for any help!
If you use a MIDI filter that just take out note info, that should be enough. Maybe a note-less scale effect would do that?
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Re: disabling note on messages for Push encoders in User Mode

Post by thermalrust » Thu Apr 06, 2017 7:50 am

metastatik wrote:The Track switch. And, no, turning that off won't impact Push's default functionality at all. However, it will make it so you can't use the pads in User Mode for playing instruments.
This would work, but I do plan on setting up the User mode so pads function as on/off switches for different devices in my set, so this would block me from doing that as well since the pads are technically sent as notes, I believe.

Stromkraft wrote:If you use a MIDI filter that just take out note info, that should be enough. Maybe a note-less scale effect would do that?
Good idea, by using Scale on each track to prevent those specific notes sent by the Push encoder knobs from passing MIDI data to the instruments. I would have to check and make sure that in my entire set, no songs use notes in that range, since I do use another MIDI keyboard for performing too, but this could work.

Any other suggestions out there? I appreciate the responses, this has been helpful.

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Re: disabling note on messages for Push encoders in User Mode

Post by yur2die4 » Thu Apr 06, 2017 2:53 pm

The difference between the 'track' option and the 'remote' option is that the track option receives midi notes 'as' notes (unless those notes are mapped). If Track is off for a device, notes will never trigger instruments. In the case of Push, this is only applicable to User mode, notes in Push mode are handled by the Control Surface part in the upper portion of midi preferences.

Remote determines whether or not anything on the device is midi mappable. This includes notes, and CCs being mapped to clips and devices. You can have Track off and Remote on and still be able to map midi notes to things. You just will not hear midi notes triggering sounds of instruments.

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