Ableton on Windows 10 and Hi Res Screens Terrible

[plopseaw]

I saw another user complaining about this and saw the thread was locked. However, I also wanted to bring up this issue. Its rather shocking to see the state of Ableton on a higher res screen. Everything is blurry, too small, text looks terrible. Looks awful and unusable on a Surface 4.

There is a kind of fix which makes Live no longer scale but although all looks sharp, everything including the plugins is in miniature.

These higher res screens are really common these days so I imagine its an issue that many have to deal with. So to my mind is a disgrace for Ableton that this has never been tackled. I don't want to see yet another Beta which fixes some obscure bug. I want to see some meaningful changes that are actually useful.

[Stromkraft]

So to my mind is a disgrace for Ableton that this has never been tackled.

For unknown reasons I've yet to see any user with a 5k iMac make the same complaint. Which is somewhat confusing.

[Stromkraft]

For unknown reasons I've yet to see any user with a 5k iMac make the same complaint. Which is somewhat confusing.

In most videos and promotional materials Live is running on Macs, so I wouldn't be surprised Ableton decided to tackle the issue there first, especially since it's much more standardised out there with just few models and resolution variations compared to PCs?

Yeah, I know they solved this after much wide-spread chagrin (Retina res had been around for some years), but the surprising part is why solving it on only one platform when you're supporting two? Maybe it's initially the lasting support for older Windows versions that made it hard to come up with a solution. I don't know. But a natural assumption would be that with graphic elements working in high res on one platform, the same elements could be made to work on the other. If only…?

[plopseaw]

I think it was easy to support apple 5k displays as the operating system does a better job of scaling. For windows 10 the software developer needs to take it into account like Bitwig does.

Obviously Ableton doesn't see it as worth the effort to rewrite their software to take into account windows (which is strange as I guess that is their biggest user base)

The constant meaningless betas and lack of this major graphical update lead me to believe that there won't be an update to Live 10 (beyond some third party sample libraries and plugins). The founder said as much himself that Live was feature complete and that Max can add missing features in a recent interview.

The party at Ableton finished long ago at version 8. The rest of us just haven't realised the main VIP's have left already.

[Stromkraft]

I think it was easy to support apple 5k displays as the operating system does a better job of scaling. For windows 10 the software developer needs to take it into account like Bitwig does.

Obviously Ableton doesn't see it as worth the effort to rewrite their software to take into account windows (which is strange as I guess that is their biggest user base)

The constant meaningless betas and lack of this major graphical update lead me to believe that there won't be an update to Live 10 (beyond some third party sample libraries and plugins). The founder said as much himself that Live was feature complete and that Max can add missing features in a recent interview.

The party at Ableton finished long ago at version 8. The rest of us just haven't realised the main VIP's have left already.

yeah, your fatalism is unbiased and admirable.