live10, native lfo, ios vs android, ableton vs bitwig

[Stefan Jantschek]

don't be biased

That's kind of hard for most of us since it's what we use every day and what we have come to like.

What keeps me with Live is I can do pretty much everything I want and I have been more than happy with it, have never felt the urge to switch or even try something new. I use to use trackers back in the 90s and early 00s which I loved for the workflow but I started craving more stability and plugins over samples so I spent a few years trying Fruity, Cubase/Nuendo, Reason, Reaper before stumbling over Live (which at the time I had not even heard of) and almost straight away the workflow clicked. Been happy ever since.

I have nothing to argue why someone else should stay/go with another. Spend your time making your mind up, your experience will differ from mine.

Everything true what you say.
If there would not be windows hi-res issues.
Just be happy if you`re not affected.
Almost THREE YEARS waiting for fix.

That is far beyond acceptance even for the most patient fellows.
With all my comprehension for difficulties.

Now i decided to wait until the end of 2017.
Still no fix, i go for another solution.
Better change software than downgrading hardware.
Heavy hearted, Push owner/lover, after more then 20 years loyality.

Ableton or Jantschek.
Someone must move on now.

*S.

[Martin Gifford]

Martin Gifford orange lets you having several project being open at once too fyi. i never tried studio one tho and know nothing about it. i had great expectations for l10 but considering they rely on m4l and push heavily there's nothing to be agitated about imo

This short video shows two of the best features of Studio One.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZALHeAeOjM4

[Khazul]

What got me started with Live and what keep me using it are probably two different things.

The starting point was that it was non-linear back in the days when everything else was linear (ie they had no session view, just track editors).

Many years down the road I know Live so well that I just dont have to think about it - its the devil i know. Ive been round the houses with cubase and logic and others and while they are great (for me) for certain kinds of work, ive just become so fluent with live that I dont need to think about it, so it doesnt distract me. Undoubtedly straight session recording and mixing is more logical and better supported in the likes of cubase, logic, pro-tools etc, but you get to a poinmt where you can work in live just as well on those tasks when you know it well enough. I have DIY racks for many of the little recording and mixing tools that other daws might have built in. I also think the more bare-bones/in-yr-face nature of live make it better suited to some of the wierd shit cross channel hacking that you often get into with electronic music.

The session view has always made for a great sketch pad because of it simplicity.

Thats not to say live cant be improved - alot. In many ways its far too bare bones, but I would hate ableton to sacrifice that as they add more modern complexity and so far I think they have done ok in adding functionality and yet keeping the esentials quick to get at and so simple that they do not distract.

Im also comfy working in Live with just a mouse/keyboard and no controllers if I have to. I have to be honest, I could not stand working in logic or cubase without a decent DAW control surface (thats probably because Im and old bastard who was working on consoles and video edit machines back in the 80s in the BBC among other places - so they still feel right when doing regular session recording and mixing and a mouse just doesnt cut it - at all!) .

As for iOS/Android - I would like to see an iOS version of Live that allowed you to export frozen set freeze 3rd party plugins so you can at least audio record/edit/mix/arrange on an iPad. Perhaps we need session mode clip freezing to facilitate this? It would need to allow for a way of transferring projects for partial editing when there is a mismatch of plugins across the environments. TBH - this kind of tech would be good even for the osx/win versions - how many of us have issues working on project with folks who do not have the same plugins and thus forcing us to share stems or reduce plugin usage to the common set?