Is it possible to automate parameters in clip view?

[TheWholeDamnZoo]

Am I missing something or is it impossible to automate parameters in clip view? It seems to me that automating things like transposition or gain of a clip, or things like the transient envelope value should be pretty simple to allow, yet I can't find a way to do it. Does anyone know why?

[arretx]

Yes, it is.

Click a clip.

At the bottom of the screen you should have clip, launch, notes and envelopes. If you don't see Launch, Notes, and Envelopes, turn them on under Clip.

Enable the Envelope view by clicking the right arrow button in the title bar of Envelopes.

You should have a drop-down to select from the available devices that can be automated:

Mixer
MIDI
<whateverdeviceyouhaveinthetrack>

Now, automate.

Another note...if you want to draw in an automation that is intended to last longer than the content of the clip, such as a gradual volume increase over 8 measures on a 1 measure loop, you can unlink the automation timeline from the notes timeline with the "Linked" button in the Envelope section.

[TheWholeDamnZoo]

Thanks for the replies, but I'm not talking about the envelopes. I'm referring to parameters in the "sample" box, like the transpose knob, the gain slider, the segment BPM value, and the transient envelope value. See the areas marked in the attached image.

[yur2die4]

Envelopes are automation envelopes of those parameters. For instance, you have Volume chosen. That should auto,are the volume you have circled in red.

Some parameters are not automatable but can be recorded in arrangement as you change their settings in real time.

Detune creates new clips if you record it.

Set. BPM is a weird one to want to record because it is different for each individual warp marker in your clip. But again, it'd probably record multiple instances of clips in Arrangement if you recorded yourself modulating it.

[TheWholeDamnZoo]

Envelopes are automation envelopes of those parameters. For instance, you have Volume chosen. That should auto,are the volume you have circled in red.

Some parameters are not automatable but can be recorded in arrangement as you change their settings in real time.

Detune creates new clips if you record it.

Set. BPM is a weird one to want to record because it is different for each individual warp marker in your clip. But again, it'd probably record multiple instances of clips in Arrangement if you recorded yourself modulating it.

It seems that I can't record automation onto the clip as is. I have to record it to a new track while manipulating these parameters in real time and create a new clip in the process. Am I correct?

[yur2die4]

Volume and transpose you can automate within a clip. If you are needing to do automation of those parameters across multiple instances of the clip then you'll need resort to other techniques. In the case of transpose that can be really bad.

Within a clip you can also modulate some warp mode parameters.

I guess it gets more confusing when one distinguishes between automation and modulation. Modulation does the trick as long as you're aware of the relative aspect.

But yeah, what you stated should do the trick but it'll get more and more messy. Basically your play the clip from Session and let Arrangement record it as you adjust it.

[TheWholeDamnZoo]

Volume and transpose you can automate within a clip. If you are needing to do automation of those parameters across multiple instances of the clip then you'll need resort to other techniques. In the case of transpose that can be really bad.

Within a clip you can also modulate some warp mode parameters.

I guess it gets more confusing when one distinguishes between automation and modulation. Modulation does the trick as long as you're aware of the relative aspect.

But yeah, what you stated should do the trick but it'll get more and more messy. Basically your play the clip from Session and let Arrangement record it as you adjust it.

I see what you're saying about multiple clips being created if recording from session to arrangement. I guess I meant that I would just need to record from one track to another in arrangement, which I think would be the most reasonable solution, although not perfect because I would have to "perform" the automation and wouldn't be able to edit it.

[tedlogan]

Yes, it's a pity that the warp-specific parameters can not be automated nor controlled from Push. I especially like playing around with the Envelope parameter of rhythmic and/or dynamic clips if you set the loop mode to the first choice in the drop-down menu.

[pajzd]

the little arrows though Fast Forward or REWIND <<-- -->>
you can automate, not within clip view
but with max for live
that's really cool !

i belive you can also just midi/key map them from live

[gkmachine]

Hey....I realise it's been years since this thread was started but I was looking into this issue myself recently.

Basically, in short in that screenshot with the areas you've marked in red not much can be treated as automation....and only some of it within the clip view itself (I.e., everything from the drop down menu that you currently have set to 'Volume'

The bits you're talking about (and the bits I like to play around with too) are NOT automatable. The only way you can 'record' these changes is by playing the clip live into arrangement view whilst playing around......and the results are pretty crazy.....lots of tiny little individual clips, one for each minute change that you make.

Here's a screenshot of my playing around with the Transient envelope (dragging up and down between 100 and 30).



It would be so ideal if you could automate this to make the changes precisely when you wanted because it's way too easy to make mistakes when farting around like this

[gkmachine]

That image link doesn't seem to work....here's the screenshot uploaded to my dropbox

https://www.dropbox.com/s/iadg7p2v8uma8 ... 5.png?dl=0