reaktor5+Live5 do they make a perfect 10?

Michael-SW · Post by **Michael-SW** » Wed Sep 21, 2005 10:52 am

I was thinking of using it for live use. Sure, you need to wait a couple of seconds, but you save a lot of midi tracks.

Machinate · Post by **Machinate** » Wed Sep 21, 2005 10:59 am

eh? I don't follow...

Michael-SW · Post by **Michael-SW** » Wed Sep 21, 2005 11:17 am

Say you move over to a new part of your set (new song or just new part of the same piece) and you want some new sounds. Instead of starting playing on a new track, you just switch ensemble on an existing track.

Will definitely make it easier when you have a controller mapped - then you want to save on tracks.

Now, to put it into context, I'm into improvisation and abstract electronic music. Dropping one voice out for a couple of seconds is no big deal.

FORMAT · Post by **FORMAT** » Wed Sep 21, 2005 11:17 am

So Reaktor 5 does the trick of actually using LESS CPU? Anyone on an older Mac care to comment?

R.

Machinate · Post by **Machinate** » Wed Sep 21, 2005 11:41 am

Michael-SW wrote:Say you move over to a new part of your set (new song or just new part of the same piece) and you want some new sounds. Instead of starting playing on a new track, you just switch ensemble on an existing track.

Will definitely make it easier when you have a controller mapped - then you want to save on tracks.

Now, to put it into context, I'm into improvisation and abstract electronic music. Dropping one voice out for a couple of seconds is no big deal.

yeah, I think we're pretty similar in the way we work then. What I plan to do is have 8 midi-tracks set up with the arm buttons assigned already. When you load reaktor into one of these tracks (by using the clip-drag method) the arm assignments aren't lost. And all the midi assignments to parameters in reaktor have already been saved by me, so it still works. All I need is 8 empty midi tracks when I start out

The advantage here is that I can actually do a proper mix between the two reaktor ensembles, so that the change is not abrupt. I just A-B-A-B-A-b-A-B assign the midi channels and use the crossfader.

Michael-SW · Post by **Michael-SW** » Wed Sep 21, 2005 1:04 pm

Live's parameter-> controller mappings doesn't save with the clip? That would be too much to ask, I guess.

Well, your method is an excellent work around!

Machinate · Post by **Machinate** » Wed Sep 21, 2005 3:12 pm

yeah, the coolest thing ever would be if the controller assignments were saved with plugin as standard. But a little midi learn + a quick save of the ensemble should do the trick.

shredded · Post by **shredded** » Wed Sep 21, 2005 5:32 pm

Dude, all I have to say is that Cevin Key from Skinny Puppy himself said that his favorite synth is Reaktor, and that was like when version 3 was out. He liked it so much that his Subconscious studios auctioned off most of their old analog gear. This is someone who has been using synths in the studio and live since the early 80's. It was for me my favorite investment yet, as far as audio software is concerned; there are daily additions to the user library. I love reaktor and Live, but beware, you need a lot of memory and a pretty fast computer or else you won't get much out of it. Anyone who disses this program doesn't know how to use it, as it is my opinion the coolest electronic musical instrument ever created next to the Kurzweil K2600. If you have a decent soundcard it is worth the money just as a vocal/fx processor alone. It has a few bugs here and there but NI are very quick to address them and release updates.

humeka · Post by **humeka** » Wed Sep 21, 2005 11:24 pm

reaktor 4 has always been really stable on my system (P1.4, 256ram, 18.8 HD, ooh, old machine now...). and reaktor 5 is better : less CPU consumption, better integration, and awesome instruments !
if you own an old/slow computer, the best way is to export your sequences through samples, you'll save some ram capacity.
my best argument would be I only own reaktor 5 and live 4 and I really think it's the best couple. you can do any kind of sounds, melodies, effects. you'll have to learn it a bit but it's worth the time.
I'll just say "go for it !!!!!!!!!"

dmc · Post by **dmc** » Thu Sep 22, 2005 12:01 am

i run r5 and live5 on a powerbook (G4 1.25) daily and have not had a single crash on this setup. and r5 is in fact a bit more CPU efficient on the patches I use than r4.

i do hate how little CPU headroom I have with this setup, but i tried to go back to logic and it just sux for automation compared to live.

am thinking about buying a pc just as a standalone reaktor box.

atomic · Post by **atomic** » Thu Sep 22, 2005 1:35 am

Well there is nice response has been great. Thanks for all the input. I have posted my powercore virus up for sale on a local site and am waiting for the buyer to come through to fund reaktor5.

I am excited and look forward to rely getting into Reaktor. I have infinite questions about reaktor but I will narow it down to one! Just how good can I expect the VA modeling to sound? Ok that is very subjective but I will ask anyway. That is my only concern about reaktor. I know that for digital sounds it is king but I just wonder about warmpth and the other end of the spectrum.

Again thanks for all the feedback.

AdamJay · Post by **AdamJay** » Thu Sep 22, 2005 1:39 am

R5 kicks ass and is worth the money.
its that simple.

Operator does too.

just be creative with whatever you decide to use. be it one, the other, or both.

and have fun.

and tip your pizza man.

cause bass player's got bills to pay too.

ishimaru · Post by **ishimaru** » Thu Sep 22, 2005 2:13 am

AdamJay wrote:R5 kicks ass and is worth the money.
its that simple.

Operator does too.

just be creative with whatever you decide to use. be it one, the other, or both.

and have fun.

and tip your pizza man.

cause bass player's got bills to pay too.

Seriously Adam Jay is rawkin'. Reaktor kicks ass. In fact I used Reaktor on a intro track for my profile on myspace.

http://www.myspace.com/augustusmcmlxxxi

Check it.

Eraldo Bernocchi · Post by **Eraldo Bernocchi** » Thu Sep 22, 2005 10:08 am

reaktor 5 worth every cent you pay for it.
i'm using it alone for creating sounds and loops as well in live or cubase sx.
it can be cpu demanding but this is up to the ensemble you use.
on my system is very very stable, it crashed once out of everyday use since it came out.

...and consider i'm using digidesign 002r...well know for the "great" drivers...

g5 dp1.8, 1.5 gig ram, digi 002r, 10.3.9

Michael-SW · Post by **Michael-SW** » Thu Sep 22, 2005 11:08 am

atomic wrote:...Just how good can I expect the VA modeling to sound? Ok that is very subjective but I will ask anyway. That is my only concern about reaktor. I know that for digital sounds it is king but I just wonder about warmpth and the other end of the spectrum.

Listen to the demo sounds on NI's homepage. Then download the Reaktor demo and try for yourself!