Metronome changes the beat

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Splepp
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Metronome changes the beat

Post by Splepp » Thu Jan 17, 2019 2:00 pm

Hi
I have a few drum loops with sample rate 48000 in a followAction chain. More detailed: its 5 time the same loop. But there are different parts silent (Volume to zero).
Thaty why I need the metronome.

when I play them, the metronome suddenly changes the beat (at same beat). So its OFF Beat, or completely in another time (same beat)
Warp is on. I start the chain with the scene, and the beat is written in the scene name (64bpm)

Moreover: when starting a loop it happens often that it starts "twice". I mean: it starts and after the first 1/8 it loops back and play without loop.
There are no other loops at the same time. Only this drum loops.

I didnt change a lot. But the length of the Follow Action ist not the same as the length of the loop.
F.e. Loop length 2:0:0, Follow action after 5:0:0 measures.

Does somebodý has an idea what happens there and how to fix it?

Isnt it weird?
play a loop- its fine
FollowAction: Play next
next loops plays(its the same) - its fine
FollowAction: Play next
next loops plays(its the same) - at beat 5 the metronome makes two clicks very fast after each other and is unsynchron...

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Re: Metronome changes the beat

Post by wearemindflux » Fri Jan 18, 2019 12:34 pm

Hi, this sounds like you have the global quantize set to none. Or your beats are programmed wrong or the start flag is in the same place.

Also, it will start twice if you double press it.
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Re: Metronome changes the beat

Post by Splepp » Sat Jan 19, 2019 11:34 am

Hi wearemindflux
Both is wrong.
global quantize set to 1/4
Î dont double press it, I start by a midi trigger.
But also when I press it it starts double.

Additionally I found,that the metronome is also irregular when I just start WITHOUT ANY CLIP!!!!!!!!!!!!! what the hell is wrohg there?
Just Play Button at

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Re: Metronome changes the beat

Post by [jur] » Sat Jan 19, 2019 6:33 pm

Do you have a looping region in Arrangement ?
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Re: Metronome changes the beat

Post by Splepp » Sun Jan 20, 2019 7:30 pm

[jur] wrote:Do you have a looping region in Arrangement ?
Yes LOTS.

I use Ableton of as a setlist with backing tracks.
Each instrument extra.
There are manyx solo parts and they are all looped....

So in this project there arer more the 40 looped scenes...

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Re: Metronome changes the beat

Post by Splepp » Tue Jan 22, 2019 5:12 pm

Push!
The problem is still unsolved!

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Re: Metronome changes the beat

Post by chapelier fou » Tue Jan 22, 2019 8:42 pm

Can you share the set somewhere ?
I'm having a hard time trying to understand the problem.
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Re: Metronome changes the beat

Post by chapelier fou » Tue Jan 22, 2019 8:44 pm

You said you have Global quantize set to 1/4.
But what about your clips' quantization ? Are they set to Global ?
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Re: Metronome changes the beat

Post by chapelier fou » Tue Jan 22, 2019 8:46 pm

What's the clips launch mode ?
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Re: Metronome changes the beat

Post by chapelier fou » Tue Jan 22, 2019 8:48 pm

Is the time signature in your clips the same as the global transport ?
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Re: Metronome changes the beat

Post by Splepp » Wed Jan 23, 2019 12:05 pm

chapelier fou wrote:Can you share the set somewhere ?
I'm having a hard time trying to understand the problem.
I would love to share, but I dont know how?
Well: I have 6 Audio tracks and some midi tracks
2 of the miditracks contain only two trigger signals that choose next (ore some) scene and launch it after asome time
trhe rest are midi settings for my (physical) instruments (some keyboards and external effects)
then I have 1 track with an Instrument (Sample Instrument)via KOntakt Player
The audio tracks contain short loops only, no effects, nothing CPU consuming.


And there are two midi traces converting incoming midi Messages to another channel
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Re: Metronome changes the beat

Post by Splepp » Wed Jan 23, 2019 12:06 pm

chapelier fou wrote:You said you have Global quantize set to 1/4.
But what about your clips' quantization ? Are they set to Global ?
Yes, they are all set to "global"

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Re: Metronome changes the beat

Post by Splepp » Wed Jan 23, 2019 12:14 pm

chapelier fou wrote:What's the clips launch mode ?
Trigger

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Re: Metronome changes the beat

Post by Splepp » Wed Jan 23, 2019 12:15 pm

chapelier fou wrote:Is the time signature in your clips the same as the global transport ?
Mostly...with one exception:
For one scene it changes to 3/4, all the rest is 4/4

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Re: Metronome changes the beat

Post by Splepp » Thu Jan 24, 2019 1:27 pm

Push...
Still unsolved

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