What does the "T" mean in "1/16T" etc in

[engineroom]

hi- maybe i am missing something obvious, but i didn't see this in the manual anywhere- what does the "T" mean in the various options in the quantization menus? as in "1/4T"

thanx

[TekMonki]

triplet.

[Michael-SW]

To elaborate a bit, it means the note is "dotted" or a triplet. What that really means is that it is half again as long as the original, so a dotted 1/4 is really 1/4+1/8 = 3/8.

Hope I got that right....

[RePeter]

i think there is another difference between dotted and triplets.
correct, dotted notes add half the length again, but triplet notes are timed so three fit in, not four (depending on time sig)

[Michael-SW]

Ooops, you are right.

A triplet is actually 2/3 of the original note length.

[feyshay]

I thought a triplet was 1/3 the length of a note (hence the name). Thus, three triplets would make one note.
It would be 2/3 of a half note, no?

[mikemc]

A triplet note is 2/3 length. Three triplets per two whatevers.

[Angstrom]

Heh, heh

in notation:
triplets take up twice the time of the equivalent straight beat . Or to put it another way ... 1 triplet = 2 of the equivalent straight notes.

so an 8th note triplet (3 notes) are played in the time that two 8th notes would normally be played.


a 16th note triplet (3 notes) is played in the time that 2 16th notes would normally be played.


there are other tuplets too , such as a quintuplet (5 notes in the space of 4 !)

[mikemc]

Heh, heh

in notation:
triplets take up twice the time of the equivalent straight beat . Or to put it another way ... 1 triplet = 2 of the equivalent straight notes.

so an 8th note triplet (3 notes) are played in the time that two 8th notes would normally be played.


a 16th note triplet (3 notes) is played in the time that 2 16th notes would normally be played.


there are other tuplets too , such as a quintuplet (5 notes in the space of 4 !)

ok, ok yes, in notation, there is no such thing as a singleton triplet. But, yes, in notation a triplet refers to all three, not to a single nT temporal unit.

[Rodofhot]

I'm not sure about how the software handles floating points and division and significant digits but the idea is if you have a measure that is 4/4 time and for argument sake takes 3 seconds to play one whole beat then 1/4T would have a beat every 1 second. Whereas a normal 1/4 note would take 3 seconds and divide it into 4 parts so your answer would be each 1/4 note is .75 of 3 seconds so the same measure would still be 3 seconds. If you multiply .75 times 4 you get 3 so I'm not sure if the term triplet comes from the math or the notation but you can see the correlation to 3 in multiple ways. I actually went in Ableton and recorded a 1/4T metronome over a 1/4 note midi beat and the results didn't seem to make anymore sense then the math so I think the best way to think of triplets is there is a cool groove you can play and sometimes when you try to figure out why the groove is so cool, well it turns out your utilizing a triplet beat in some way so your taking a whole beat and dividing it into a portion which has no true mathematical definition. I know is your mind blown yet! I don't mean you can't calculate it I mean there is no whole number it's some repeating decimal of a fraction which has no true end and must be approximated or rounded in order to make sense and of coarse if your writing sheet music and trying to place notes on a staff you certainly have to keep things neat and sensical so they do by just throwing the notation for a triplet onto notes that couldn't possibly equate to the true fraction they represent by tacking a dot onto it for example. However you cut it triplets are dope and sometimes I use that 1/4 or 1/8 T Rhythm as a click track to a beat I can't seem to jive with in any other Rhythmic form. It is in the manual btw just open the pdf from the help menu hit Ctrl+F and type in triplet, there are 14 occurrences but your correct they don't use "1/4T" and they certainly don't elaborate on the term triplet in great detail which is probably a good thing. Have a peachey keen time making music oh and how bout a font which supports the roman numeral I Ableton

[jestermgee]

I'm not sure about how the software handles floating points and division and significant digits but the idea is if you have a measure that is 4/4 time and for argument sake takes 3 seconds to play one whole beat then 1/4T would.....

Thread died 15 years ago there bud

[[jur]]

I'm not sure about how the software handles floating points and division and significant digits but the idea is if you have a measure that is 4/4 time and for argument sake takes 3 seconds to play one whole beat then 1/4T would.....

Thread died 15 years ago there bud

It’s resurrected. Good topics sometimes deserve it!

[jonljacobi]

Since it’s back: three notes played the amount of time it normally takes to play two.

[1mm1n9j1n]

So, how many 16T notes are there in a 4/4 measure?

24?

Since there are 3 x 1/16T notes for every 2 x 1/16th note, there are normally 16 x 1/16th notes in a 4/4 measure. 16 is 8 x 2, so the number of 1/16T notes should be 8 x 3 = 24.

Is that right?

[chapelier fou]

Yep.