Sysex loads for hardware synths?

Discuss music production with Ableton Live.
Post Reply
Gothboy
Posts: 90
Joined: Fri Aug 18, 2006 4:14 pm
Location: US Eastern Seaboard
Contact:

Sysex loads for hardware synths?

Post by Gothboy » Tue Apr 28, 2020 10:33 pm

I'm interested in being able to load Sysex files into a hardware synth (Roland D-05) using Ableton Live 10 and Sysex Librarian. I've heard you use Max for live to do this.....I've also heard it doesn't work at all. No videos on it on You tube and the manual only hints at the capability but no specifics on how. I thought I'd ask you guys before I hit up Ableton.
Mac Pro Quad Core Intel Xeon 2.8 GHz. 16 GB RAM
Mountain Lion 10.8.5/El Capitan 10.11.6
Live Suite 9.1.7 and 10.1.9

TLW
Posts: 809
Joined: Thu Aug 23, 2018 2:37 am

Re: Sysex loads for hardware synths?

Post by TLW » Tue Apr 28, 2020 11:39 pm

Live 10 Suite, 2020 27" iMac, 3.6 GHz i9, MacOS Catalina, RME UFX, assorted synths, guitars and stuff.

Gothboy
Posts: 90
Joined: Fri Aug 18, 2006 4:14 pm
Location: US Eastern Seaboard
Contact:

Re: Sysex loads for hardware synths?

Post by Gothboy » Thu Apr 30, 2020 8:03 pm

I watched that previously but I'm not looking to trigger a device....I would like to load a patch bank from Ableton to the synth.
Mac Pro Quad Core Intel Xeon 2.8 GHz. 16 GB RAM
Mountain Lion 10.8.5/El Capitan 10.11.6
Live Suite 9.1.7 and 10.1.9

chapelier fou
Posts: 6358
Joined: Mon May 15, 2006 12:15 pm

Re: Sysex loads for hardware synths?

Post by chapelier fou » Fri May 01, 2020 6:42 am

I’m also interested in this to load patches on my nord modular with m4l. Sending Sysex should be quite easy. Storing the sysex with the live set might be harder.
I’ll try to find some time to make a m4l device.
But have you looked at maxforlive.com ? There might be a device that just does it.
MacBook Pro 13" Retina i7 2.8 GHz OS 10.13, L10.0.1, M4L.
MacStudio M1Max 32Go OS 12.3.1

TLW
Posts: 809
Joined: Thu Aug 23, 2018 2:37 am

Re: Sysex loads for hardware synths?

Post by TLW » Sat May 02, 2020 4:31 am

Whatever you’re trying to do with sysex files the procedure for sending it using Live is basically the same.
Live 10 Suite, 2020 27" iMac, 3.6 GHz i9, MacOS Catalina, RME UFX, assorted synths, guitars and stuff.

Jim Reaper
Posts: 1
Joined: Sat Jun 25, 2011 2:07 pm

Re: Sysex loads for hardware synths?

Post by Jim Reaper » Tue May 12, 2020 10:12 pm

Have been thinking about the same thing. I have a Roland D-50, and a tonne of classic libraries as sysex dumps. I'm a total novice with max for live, but think it probably isn't *that* hard to create a librarian.

I think the simplest thing would be to create a m4l device that has a file browser/drag'n'drop to load a sysex file, and then just a button to send the message to the ~midiout object when clicked.

Expanding this idea in to a librarian, I think something like this might be the idea:
  • dropped file outputs file info to a 'message' object
  • message (and all further dropped file messages) store in a collection object
  • provide UI object to allow user selection of file to output
  • button which, when clicked, sends out the sysex data to ~midiout
I've tried playing around with this latter idea, but far too new at m4l to get very far. Got to step two above, but got lost thinking about how to add further files. My idea is that once you've loaded in the sysex you, save the patch as a preset to preserve the sysex within the patch.

Edit: Even more user friendly would be a dial that sweeps through the sysex files. This way you could automate a dump send by setting the dial value.

Post Reply