Using Kontakt Host Automation with Live

[jonel]

I've been working with Midi Automation in Live 10 and everything works well and I understand it. However, I'm not sure about the use of Host Automation. I sort of understand that these settings are to the Host as the Midi settings are to the Midi Controller. But try as I might, I can't see how to use them. For a start there are 512 of them.
Any help would be gratefully received.

Thanks

[DataLife]

I don't know that this is possible in Live, unfortunately. Haven't been able to find an answer anywhere.

[jlgrimes]

I've been working with Midi Automation in Live 10 and everything works well and I understand it. However, I'm not sure about the use of Host Automation. I sort of understand that these settings are to the Host as the Midi settings are to the Midi Controller. But try as I might, I can't see how to use them. For a start there are 512 of them.
Any help would be gratefully received.

Thanks

Dont you just right click control in Kontakt to assign to host automation parameter?

Then Ableton will "see" it.

That said I think some Kontakt instruments are already setup with Host automation enabled by default but if you are using older libraries or creating custom Kontakt patches you have to enable host automation for each control.

Some VSTs (Kontakt, Reaktor, Omnisphere) work this way.

[DataLife]

Disregard: it works, it's just a little weird.

In Kontakt you go to Host Automation, drag one parameter (e.g. #001) to the knobs you want to control, then you wiggle one of those knobs with Ableton Configure on, and then Ableton sees not the knob you wiggled, but the parent Host Automation controller that controls all the knobs in the set.

I assumed Ableton was only seeing the knobs you wiggled, as that's the normal behavior.

This is nice if you want to set up simple macros in Kontakt (no scaling) and only pass the macros to Ableton. Instead of having a ton of knobs in Ableton's configure pane.