Using time warp to link music from Staffpad with recording

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bicko19
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Using time warp to link music from Staffpad with recording

Post by bicko19 » Wed Apr 27, 2016 1:23 pm

Hi all,

I am very very new to Ableton and I'm really hoping someone can help me out here, I'm going insane.

So I currently use StaffPad on my Surface to transcribe the sections of the opera I'm currently in to help me learn my parts. I export what I transcribe as an mp3.

What I want to be able to do is then line up this track I've created, over the top of an actual recording of the piece so I can have what I've transcribed banging out over the top of the actual track to practice with.

My issue is there are tempo differences between the real recording, and the transcription I have done.

What I'm hoping to achieve (via Time Warp I'm guessing), is to stretch out and line up each of the notes in the transcription recording, so they measure up perfectly with the real recording.

In my current attempts with Ableton, I've found I have to have a master tempo for the project, so if I insert both tracks, add some markers to the transcribed track, the real track is effected by the tempo changes and such.

What am I doing wrong here? Is there a way just to purely put in the markers andd move them to where they need to be?

Seriously, thank you to anyone who can help me. I've spent the last two nights trying to figure this out but to no avail!

Cheers!

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Re: Using time warp to link music from Staffpad with recording

Post by bicko19 » Fri Apr 29, 2016 2:43 am

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Re: Using time warp to link music from Staffpad with recording

Post by yur2die4 » Fri Apr 29, 2016 2:51 am

This can be very challenging without practice. Especially on tracks without ultra-clear visible rhythms in the waveforms.

But the key is to first warp the MP3. The MP3 will sound very strange because you are going to have a master tempo that is not the same as what the warp markers say. The reason is because generally clips are warped in order to force the clip to conform to any tempo Live is set to. You will probably have to warp by hand. To warp, you just make sure that portions of 4 or 8 bars get a warp marker on them, and that warp market lines up with the grid of 1, 2, 3, ... Etc bars in the Clip View. Inbetween those markers, if anything drifts you can find the furthest-off parts and just nudge them in place with additional markers.

Once the track is warped, and warped properly, you can set the track itself to be the Master tempo (and Live to be a slave to the clip), so that Live's clock will fall in line with the tempo of the original material. As the clip may have sounded really weird beforehand, if you set Live to be the slave, the clip should spins completely unwarped.

None of this will work out well if you do not warp properly.

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Re: Using time warp to link music from Staffpad with recording

Post by scoopneck » Wed Jul 15, 2020 8:26 pm

I am new to using StaffPad and am trying to export midi files from it and import them into Ableton. I am having no luck so far. The midi file exports as ".midi" format. Any idea what I might be doing wrong here? Seems like it should be a no-brainer.
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