Is ableton garbage for musicians who use physical instruments?

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Joe maddox
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Is ableton garbage for musicians who use physical instruments?

Post by Joe maddox » Tue Jan 26, 2021 10:02 am

Wtf is wrong with ableton? It's delay is in the mic, in the speakers, in recording.

My set up:
Hp all in one, touch screen new model. A week old, bought for this.
Scarlet solo, 48v, 3wire chord to mic

Found scarlet in preferences, got it to record. Everything's delayed, or cuts out every half second.

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Re: Is ableton garbage for musicians who use physical instruments?

Post by Greenapples2019 » Tue Jan 26, 2021 10:14 am

We use ableton as the hub of our live set up: four vox, bass, guitar, hi-hats mic, drum triggers, all going through a scarlett 18i20. Ableton does all the automation, reverbs, delays etc. and works really reliably. There is some latency (about 10ms with 128 samples) but not a problem when playing live. It's worth checking your preferences for buffer size and also the scarlett manual (with the 18i20 you can monitor direct from the scarlett so there's no latency from the roundtrip to the computer - we use this when recording into Ableton)

It's worth persevering, I use Ableton and LPX but increasingly find Ableton is a better workflow.

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Re: Is ableton garbage for musicians who use physical instruments?

Post by Mark Williams » Tue Jan 26, 2021 11:30 am

Ensure your using correct generation scarlet drivers, make sure both Windows and Ableton use same buffer sample settings.
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Re: Is ableton garbage for musicians who use physical instruments?

Post by Shift Gorden » Tue Jan 26, 2021 6:55 pm

I use Live for live instruments all the time, mate. As do a lot of other folk here...and a multitude of performers and artists.

Ableton is a beast, and sometimes it takes patience and a bit of Googlin' to figure it out. Given you've only been using this a week...

Like Darren said, direct monitoring on the interface will certainly help you out with recording in time - not sure if the solo has that, though.

What are your latency settings? Do you have delay compensation on? I'm not sure what a 3 cord mic is? Usually mics only have one cord (USB or XLR) - what's that about? Sounds weird to me.

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Re: Is ableton garbage for musicians who use physical instruments?

Post by [jur] » Tue Jan 26, 2021 7:48 pm

Joe maddox wrote:
Tue Jan 26, 2021 10:02 am
Wtf is wrong with ableton? It's delay is in the mic, in the speakers, in recording.
Yesterday I bought an airplane, I never leanred how to use this kind of things, but it was a good deal and I once played a flight simulator video game so I jumped on it...
This morning I tried it, and wtf this piece of metal isn't flying at all, what's wrong with this thing!!?? I can't return it as it was 2nd hand, but it sure is broken!

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Re: Is ableton garbage for musicians who use physical instruments?

Post by Chancery » Wed Jan 27, 2021 7:27 am

For what it's worth, I use Live on an HP All-In-One too. A four year old gen7 i7, with guitars, bass and hardware synths, and it works without a hitch, while Cubase gave me endless headaches to the point that I got rid of it, dongle and all.
I did read the manual though. Cover to cover.

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Re: Is ableton garbage for musicians who use physical instruments?

Post by [jur] » Wed Jan 27, 2021 11:22 am

You should also grab some info regarding ASIO/Asio-for-all, which seems to be a requisite on Windows.
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