Thank you all for your time and feedback. I just got the serial number and the package arrives this weekend!
unsuccessful handshake wrote: tutes, dood
I'm not sure what this means!?... But thanks!
Machinate wrote:I'm a reaktor newb, and the best advice I can give you in a wet-footed spirit is to start by making a prioritized list of "things that would be really cool to do in max". That way you can target your work from the beginning, and you'll probably be able to see more possibilities in your work and others.
Totally.
I had originally said "I want to start out with effects-> drum machines-> synthesizers-> automation-manipulation-utilities-> animation (Jitters.)," but I think for now, after reading some articles by Darwin Grosse on creating basic synths, that
I will start out trying to do whatever the manual suggests!
And then I will either try to create some basic send patches (I've spent the last year in the navels of Logic and Live) and then perhaps a minimal synth.
My head has been spinning with countless, yet very basic, potential first steps, and I have been writing down my questions- but, you are right- I will consciously document and observe and make necessary rearrangements with my approach, as well as my priorities. Everything I did (or didn't
) learn when I worked in a Lab, in terms of note keeping etc, I will do my best to apply here! Otherwise I will become another bad sterotype with a fast debit card!
johnpitcairn wrote: First, work your way through the "Max Tutorials & Topics" PDF. Do not skip this.
Then once you have a grasp of the basic Max concepts, and have built some stuff, tackle the "MSP Tutorials & Topics" PDF.
Every object in Max/MSP has a help-patch, accessed by option-clicking the object (unlocked patch). The help patch itself is unlockable, so you can pick it apart to see how it works.
You got it boss! BTW, it was a combination of the Lemur, a Link that Machinate posted about Circuit Bending, some music I recently listened to by Computo, and finally, especially your LC Xmu that recently pushed me over the edge to buy MAX.
Once I realized how much more power I could get out of my microkontrol with your software, I realized that I could potentially make the most most of this interim before macintels come out (no lappy till then, Logic pro says- "Chill,LOfA! You really don't want to start playing out without me... do you!?) and before I can afford the still, too-new-to-judge, Lemur, I might as welll make the most out of my time and budget. And, perhaps keep building on the hardware that I already have, and maybe make it do what I would have wanted it to do from the begining!
computo wrote: These are all good pieces of advice.
Tutorials and examples are of KEY importance...
next, get some ideas of what you want to accomplish, because just setting off programming with this program can send you into an abyss of wonder.
I feel it. I'm sort of telling myself that if I ever want to make music on the Lemur like I'm Jordi La Forge in an Engineering crisis (could not think of a more appropriate analogy,) I need to understand the material that I am working with. I will certainly try to make a clear path and pursue it! All of this input (and anymore-thanks, and please!) is really helpful.
computo wrote: You may find the Max book useful, its called "Composing Interactive Music" and its pink. by Todd Winkler. Very helpful to get an idea of whats available...what others have done. It also has a cd with TONS of patches.
Google- here I come!
computo wrote: Finally, get a gmail account, and join the mailing list. Some of the most enlightened minds in computer music cruise the mailing list, and if you ever have a problem, there's nothing like getting the guy who developed the program's input.
Get busy!! This is a hobby that gets better with age, so rock out, man!!
I love Gmail. Totally.
liquidfx wrote: wow. MAX/MSP makes Reaktor look like a joke. Good Luck learning it, I've heard from a few that it takes a while to learn. The learning curve is steep.
Warnings about learning curves serve a great function, in terms of preparation and maintaining ones dedicatede interest, focus, and stamina. Letting them, or your fear of them get in the way does not-or at least that is what I have decided. There is no way that I need to buy a more powerful computer or more hardware than I already have to start personalizing my link between what I have in my head and the often compromised (especially in realtime) sound that comes out of my computer. Rather than weep because I can't get as many instances of beat repeat as the next guy, I want to find away to make a handful of various oscillators, filters do what they are supposed to.
liquidfx wrote: MAX/MSP is great though. Live was created in MAX/MSP, and look at how wonderful that program is!
I know... I can't seem to stop looking! As great as MAX is, I wonder if I ever would have considered it, had my intention not been to add on to my experience with the most interfacable instrument I know of (Live.)
liquidfx wrote: I hope to learn it in the future...but you have to have ALOTTA time on your hand to do something like that. And personally, i'd rather be making music that spending 9 days making a tone generator that can beep "mary had a little lamb" in Sine waves.
anyways good luck!
Thank you so much! My plan is as follows: Concentrate on getting finished with school, set aside time for specific, planned out MAX projects in the weekend. And everytime I catch myself reading a flame war, Sasha thread, or doing the MF"ing crossword at work, I will read another pdf, chapter, or whatever in MAX.
Thanks again for the support!
Yeeeee-Hah!
