Another reference manual inaccuracy

[LosAngeles]

In the section of Operator, in the passages regarding envelopes:

“Note: To avoid the audible clicks caused by restarting from its initial level, a looped envelope will restart from its actual level and move with the set attack rate to peak level.”

This is inaccurate. The looping envelope will follow an unspecified curve from the sustain level to the initial level, and then follow the attack curve to the peak value.

[pottering]

Loop Mode - Loop: Actual level will be Sustain level by definition since it retriggers in the end of Decay phase. The "unspecified curve" is the Loop Time, which is visible to the right of the Loop Mode drop-down menu (defaults to 100 ms I think).

Loop Mode - Beat: It will restart from current actual level.

Loop Mode - Sync: It will restart from current actual level.

It works just like the manual says.

[LosAngeles]

Loop Mode - Loop: Actual level will be Sustain level by definition since it retriggers in the end of Decay phase. The "unspecified curve" is the Loop Time, which is visible to the right of the Loop Mode drop-down menu (defaults to 100 ms I think).

Loop Mode - Beat: It will restart from current actual level.

Loop Mode - Sync: It will restart from current actual level.

It works just like the manual says.

Perhaps I’m misinterpreting the manual, then. Suppose the sustain level is set well above the initial level and the loop time is heavily extended. Do you hear a drop in pitch during the loop time? I do; I was under the impression the loop would retrigger from the sustain level straight to the peak following the attack curve, but it seems to first drop down from the sustain level to the initial level, then rise to the peak again.

[pottering]

Operator works like the manual says, which is a relatively simple explanation, the user manual simply is not that detailed.

Which IMO is perfectly fine, as I don't think a user manual is supposed to be as detailed and exact as you want it.

They are not technical specs, they won't tell you how stuff works exactly, and tech spec manual are usually restricted to a company's internal usage.

[LosAngeles]

Operator works like the manual says, which is a relatively simple explanation, the user manual simply is not that detailed.

Which IMO is perfectly fine, as I don't think a user manual is supposed to be as detailed and exact as you want it.

They are not technical specs, they won't tell you how stuff works exactly, and tech spec manual are usually restricted to a company's internal usage.

I understand your point, but there is a difference between vague and erroneous. Even something as simple as “the envelope will follow a continuous path from the sustain level to the initial level in the designated loop time, and then retrigger” would be sufficiently general but factually correct.