Volume fader limit to 0dB

[Gral]

Hi,

I like to set the volume of my tracks to 0dB. Ok.

Using the faders or pots as volume control for tracks and the master channel on my Novation Launchkey MKIII is for me not very useful when the default max position sets the volume to +6dB. Using a fader or pot for setting the volume to exact 0dB is fiddly and more than annoying. So I don't use the faders for controlling the track volume.

I'd like to ask here, if there is a way to llimit the max value to 0dB without having to do custom mappings?

I think this problem happens not only to the Novation Launchkey but its a general problem with midi controllers, isn't it?

Perhaps it exists a config file (options.txt?) where you could configure this?

Greetings

Alfred

[Tarekith]

You could put a Utility plug in on every track set to -6dB, which would be the same as having the volume faders at 0dB.

[Gral]

Thanks Tarekith for your answer.

Yes, your suggestion would be a possible workaround.

But the clean solution for me would actually be a real limitation of the maximum default value of the pots and faders.

I will see if I can find a solution for this. The values must be stored somewhere. I can't imagine that they are hard coded in the firmware of the midi controllers.

[Tarekith]

The only other option I can think of is once you have your controls mapped to the volume faders you can press CMD/CTRL+M to edit the midi mappings. This will allow you to specify 0dB as the top value.

[Gral]

That is the problem. This is exactly what does not work with the automatic mapping of the control surface. It only works for custom mappings. Otherwise, the problem wouldn't even exist.

[Tarekith]

Just throwing out the options people have used in the past for this, sorry it doesn't work for your specific situation.

[chris harbin]

Not sure if this is relevant, but since really getting into this, I've now got all of my tracks set to -6db at the start. My default audio or midi setting is always at -6db (but it could be -9, 12, whatever) Two things: Not only does it give more headroom for mixing, but it saves me from having to add a Sonimus plug (or the mentioned utility) to each channel.

Just saying it's a possible option. Technically, having everything at 0 isn't a good idea for mixing anyways.

[Gral]

Just throwing out the options people have used in the past for this, sorry it doesn't work for your specific situation.

Tarekith, it's all ok with your proposals. I thank you for that.

I'm only sad, that there is no simple way to configure the min/max values of the parameters when using the ableton built in surface control mechanism. It's not your fault.

Many greetings

Alfred

[Gral]

Not sure if this is relevant, but since really getting into this, I've now got all of my tracks set to -6db at the start. My default audio or midi setting is always at -6db (but it could be -9, 12, whatever) Two things: Not only does it give more headroom for mixing, but it saves me from having to add a Sonimus plug (or the mentioned utility) to each channel.

Just saying it's a possible option. Technically, having everything at 0 isn't a good idea for mixing anyways.

Normally I set the track volume to 0dB and use the gain control of the utilities plugin to adjust the levels the way that the average volume of a track oscillates around -18 db. The peak value is in most cases higher.

I don't know exactly if this is the right way, but until now I am producing music only as a hobby. So far I have not published anything. When it ever comes to that, I will see what I have to do.

Thanks for your reply.

[chris harbin]

It's amazing how different host all are. BUT, as I dig deeper I keep finding new and better ways of doing things in Live. This is just one workflow option . You're welcome.

[chris harbin]

Oh sorry, one thing to add. If you are in the habit of D/Ding the synth/drum/audio fx over as opposed to starting an audio/midi track first, this is Bup kiss. Live only remembers the state of the track saved "as default" so my mentioned method doesn't work if that is the case.

Also, I just noticed that you cannot seem to select several tracks and do the -6 or whatever for all. Grrrrr.

However, with the utility, you can save a preferred db setting "as default" and then it will be there every single time

[Tarekith]

You can lower the volume of multiple tracks at once, just select their track headers and lowering one volume fader will lower them all by the same amount.

[chris harbin]

You can lower the volume of multiple tracks at once, just select their track headers and lowering one volume fader will lower them all by the same amount.

Yes, but you can't just type in "-6" for all of them. At least not working here.