Theremin like Midi controllers

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SoutherlyBuster
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Theremin like Midi controllers

Post by SoutherlyBuster » Sat Jul 08, 2023 3:58 am

Wondering what midi controllers are out there that provide CC message outputs via contactless hand movements like the analogue Theremin does. Reading the posts on ThereminWorld, the Moog Theremini has been getting the thumbs down with latency issues around the 100ms mark, making it unplayable (musically), a shame, from the specs it seemed like a good instrument. I am not interested in an analogue Theremin, where it creates the sound, but hardware devices capable of sending out midi CCs 14bit, so I can feed it to my own crafted digital synthesisers (Max for Live devices). The resolution must be fine enough so no frequency steps are heard, i.e. 14bit, and the latency must be low so it is playable.

After a system with a quick response time and offers the wide range of values. Sure I can use the rotary encoder of my Push2, but is not as fluid as what one would get on a Theremin.

Ideally some DIY or kit system, but with verifiable results of latency, accuracy and noise levels.

Maybe this is not possible, i.e. flooding Max with too many midi CC messages and making it unusable, hence why people still use analogue theremins and just feed the audio signal back to Live.

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Re: Theremin like Midi controllers

Post by Tarekith » Sat Jul 08, 2023 4:47 am

Maybe the D-Beam on a used Roland mc505 or SP808?

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Re: Theremin like Midi controllers

Post by SoutherlyBuster » Sat Jul 08, 2023 9:32 pm

Spotted the Open Theremin project on:

https://github.com/GaudiLabs/OpenTherem ... 4OvZv-E-XY

https://www.gaudi.ch/OpenTheremin/

with discussion on the Open Theremin group on FaceBook:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/854911901816745

so I am following up that lead.

Any Open Theremin users here? Your experiences with Live?

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Re: Theremin like Midi controllers

Post by the_voder » Tue Jul 25, 2023 3:48 pm

I have one of these.

https://www.etsy.com/uk/listing/1355257 ... e-theremin

I wasn't impressed with the audio quality, using the optional audio output board, but seems quite cool as a MIDI device, outputting CCs.

Obviously, it's not a "true" theremin, but it's quite a fun little device.

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Re: Theremin like Midi controllers

Post by the_voder » Tue Jul 25, 2023 3:50 pm

SoutherlyBuster wrote:
Sat Jul 08, 2023 9:32 pm
Spotted the Open Theremin project on:

https://github.com/GaudiLabs/OpenTherem ... 4OvZv-E-XY
Er.. from the description on the Github project page, it doesn't look like it sends out MIDI data. Or am I missing something?

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