Midi controller assignments on stand alone

[dougtheguy]

This issue has had a bit of airplay. I needs to be addressed ASAP.
For those of us that play other instruments into live, the absence of this feature makes things so difficult its practically a deal breaker. One can set up on the computer and transfer over to stand alone but this is unwieldy and not always possible.

[DoubleWah]

Totally agree… midi mapping in standalone would make this so much more expressive as a live instrument!

[Pyramid_12]

I must concur

So far I've been somewhat successfull mapping CC messages in Ableton Live 11, using "collect and save" and copying the project over to the P3S in regards to the AKAI LPD8 MKII.

Still struggling with the KORG nanoKONTROL2.

Will post more later . .

[wesslan_2049]

I must concur

So far I've been somewhat successfull mapping CC messages in Ableton Live 11, using "collect and save" and copying the project over to the P3S in regards to the AKAI LPD8 MKII.

Still struggling with the KORG nanoKONTROL2.

Will post more later . .

Looking forward to hearing more on this matter!

[JNicholas]

So, wait...what? I was just attempting to connect an external sequencer (a Torso T-1) to the Push in standalone. I made a drum track and was then proceeding to make another baseline track but could not for the life of me figure out how to set another MIDI channel for that track. I thought I must be missing something obvious but is it the case that this isn't possible on the Push itself? I'd have to set up the whole thing tethered to the computer and then transfer it over? This is sort of a basic function.

[wesslan_2049]

So, wait...what? I was just attempting to connect an external sequencer (a Torso T-1) to the Push in standalone. I made a drum track and was then proceeding to make another baseline track but could not for the life of me figure out how to set another MIDI channel for that track. I thought I must be missing something obvious but is it the case that this isn't possible on the Push itself? I'd have to set up the whole thing tethered to the computer and then transfer it over? This is sort of a basic function.

What? This seems really alarming. Having an external unit (sequencer) playing more than one track at the same time shall just work. Playing two tracks (or more) with two hands should obviously not be a problem with a powerful standalone device such as P3(s). This ought to be a simple fix for Ableton.

[wesslan_2049]

I thought I must be missing something obvious but is it the case that this isn't possible on the Push itself?

This is just weird and should be addressed ASAP.

I'd have to set up the whole thing tethered to the computer and then transfer it over?

It cannot be. Sounds unbelievable. It would go against the whole idea of working standalone. It's a deal breaker.

This is sort of a basic function.

Agree, this is a basic function.

[wesslan_2049]

So, wait...what? I was just attempting to connect an external sequencer (a Torso T-1) to the Push in standalone. I made a drum track and was then proceeding to make another baseline track but could not for the life of me figure out how to set another MIDI channel for that track. I thought I must be missing something obvious but is it the case that this isn't possible on the Push itself? I'd have to set up the whole thing tethered to the computer and then transfer it over? This is sort of a basic function.

I cannot appreciate the idea of attaching a computer to work around this bug. It's an unfortunate surprise and ought not be.

Compare this with transferring files to and from Push 3(s) needing Live on Win/MacOS. It is a different thing since it is a well known oddity and communicated from Ableton. Something that might disturb your workflow, but well known. You know it when you buy it. This bug on the other hand is not. Please, dear god, make this go away!

I bought my Push 3 _standalone_ to work with my hardware equipment, including drum machines and sequencers, without the need to involve a computer during my recording sessions. Partly because I use a mobile setup. I haven't used my computer while playing and recording for years, and I don't want to.

[Edit: Spelling and phrasing]

[JNicholas]

Can someone on the forum who has been working with the Push and an external sequencer confirm if this is the actual situation or just user error? I really want to think I'm just missing a key combination or something that allows one to set track MIDI channels. That seems like something that should be readily addressable on every MIDI enabled synth and I'm just not finding the function under a menu dive.

[wesslan_2049]

Can someone on the forum who has been working with the Push and an external sequencer confirm if this is the actual situation or just user error? I really want to think I'm just missing a key combination or something that allows one to set track MIDI channels. That seems like something that should be readily addressable on every MIDI enabled synth and I'm just not finding the function under a menu dive.

Here is a problem looking much like yours, with one drum pattern and one bassline from a sequencer:
viewtopic.php?t=248382 [Edit: issue in the link has been resolved]

[JNicholas]

Okay, I figured it out. It's actually quite straightforward once you know where to look; it just wasn't readily apparent to me. In the mixer menu, go to the Input&Output sub-menu whilst whichever track you want to modify is selected below, there is then the option of specifying which I/O is needed for that track, on which channel and what kind of monitoring. It's akin to what happens in Live, just the procedure for doing it is different. Then, when playing out from the sequencer, whichever tracks you want active need to be armed for record. I'll try to make up a little video later today if I have time to step through it in case others are as dense as I...I mean others are having the same issue.

I'm not sure this addresses the original question on this thread though as CC mapping things is a separate issue. I would think, though, that has to be something they will implement (perhaps an additional use for the 'learn' button up top?).

[JNicholas]

I've made a short video on how to set this up here: https://youtu.be/fuNJP3A9HOc?feature=shared

[Just_Pierre]

I've made a short video on how to set this up here: https://youtu.be/fuNJP3A9HOc?feature=shared

Good work, Jason. Thanks for this!

[JNicholas]

Also, I should add, this is the same as the Push 2...which I have...but I've just never allocated MIDI channels on the Push as it's so accessible on Live. So this isn't something new and obscure they've shoehorned in, it's just that there are functions that perhaps we've not used on the Push itself.

[Pyramid_12]

I must concur

So far I've been somewhat successfull mapping CC messages in Ableton Live 11, using "collect and save" and copying the project over to the P3S in regards to the AKAI LPD8 MKII.

Still struggling with the KORG nanoKONTROL2.

Will post more later . .

Looking forward to hearing more on this matter!

So I did manage to map some MCU functionality using CC mode on my KORG nanoKONTROL2 within Ableton Live 11, "collect and save" and then transfered it to the P3S. Though it functions somewhat on the P3 Standalone, it is still a far cry from FULL Mackie Control Universal mode.

I hope Ableton will bring MCU mode to the P3S.