New apple products

computo · Post by **computo** » Thu Oct 13, 2005 7:30 pm

robin wrote:
subterFUSE wrote:
so maby your screen looks a little better, the design of your lappy is most probably quite shitty!

lol.

Pentium4 3.4 GHz, 17" screen, 2048 RAM DDR2, and dual SATA hard drives in Raid 0.

Bring it on. It'll smoke any Mac made.

And there's pcs that will smoke mine. So Apple has some catching up to do.
the computing equivalent of those US trucks that can outdrag a 911?

Burn, Sucka PC users!!

computo · Post by **computo** » Thu Oct 13, 2005 7:34 pm

subterFUSE wrote:
the computing equivalent of those US trucks that can outdrag a 911?

Well... that would make a Mac like one of those poser high-school kid rice burners that have been semi-suped up to look like they were in the Fast & Furious... but with only the cosmetic changes....no engine mods.

So it looks fast.... but isn't.

FACT

Mac processors outperform PCs up to 75% better.

And thats if you can even keep your OS from crashing...

maybe you can convince the rest of pc users that they have better computers, but us mac users are living it.

atomic · Post by **atomic** » Thu Oct 13, 2005 7:37 pm

computo wrote:
subterFUSE wrote:
the computing equivalent of those US trucks that can outdrag a 911?

Well... that would make a Mac like one of those poser high-school kid rice burners that have been semi-suped up to look like they were in the Fast & Furious... but with only the cosmetic changes....no engine mods.

So it looks fast.... but isn't.
FACT

Mac processors outperform PCs up to 75% better.

And thats if you can even keep your OS from crashing...

maybe you can convince the rest of pc users that they have better computers, but us mac users are living it.

Dude my pc smokes my dual G5 hands down. Im living it.

subterFUSE · Post by **subterFUSE** » Thu Oct 13, 2005 7:48 pm

Mac processors outperform PCs up to 75% better.

That is horseshit. You need to let go of the 4 year old Apple marketing and just accept reality. If Mac processors were "75%" better than PC... then why switch to a lesser CPU?

I think the correct statistic would be more like a Mac CPU is about 75% as powerful as a PC.

And thats if you can even keep your OS from crashing...

Hmm... running WinXP Pro on about 6 computers over the past few years, since the OS came out. Never had crashing problems. Again, let go of the outdated Apple guerilla marketing.

Maybe you should check out how many Mac OS X people complain about their computers crashing? I seem to notice more of that around here than Windows crashes.

bigbadotis · Post by **bigbadotis** » Thu Oct 13, 2005 8:22 pm

it's good that we've managed to keep this on topic and not let it degenerate into a mac vs. pc flame war.

Freakybeatz · Post by **Freakybeatz** » Thu Oct 13, 2005 8:38 pm

I love these MAC / PC debates, even though they are older than the silcon chip itself.

For what its worth, heres my opinion...

Macs used to be the multimedia Daddy, style and stability for the elite who could actually afford to dabble in Media.

Unfortunately today, PC's move onwards and upwards at a staggeringly fast rate and a well specced machine can be obtained for the fraction of a MACs price, but more importantly...you can build one yourself....!

Theres no denying the stability issue, but if you just use a PC dedicated for music work and you set it up with good components, that shouldnt be a big issue and any one with any sense makes a backup image, so a complete system restore is only 20 minutes away.

This whole issue about the CPU architecture and if G5's are actually faster than a P4 Athlon etc, makes no difference to me, it depends on what you are running on the system. For example, time and time again Protools le systems on well configured cheaper PC's have beaten Dual G5's and AMD's have beaten Intel P4's, dont ask me why, but try another peice of software and the result may be reversed...

Where I think Apple excel is in their design. They are peices of art, engineered with a style and grace where PC's could never come close. Unfortunately as I stated previously Apple need to keep up with how fast the PC market moves, in regards expansion, user servicablity and sheer performance.

If I had the money I'd love one of the new imac G5's, run my music software entirely off that, not because it outperforms my PC, purely for aestethic, elegance reasons, but I'm not made of money so I'll stick with my rabid rack....

Oh and I'm not just on about desktop units here, I recently had a colleague round with his extrememly sexy mac laptop 17" all the bells and whistles who also uses live5 and Protools le (laptop dedicated to music creation).

Hes a Mac-aholic and sneers at my PC usage, that was until I booted up a mid range Acer laptop and decimated his Mac with the amount of Plugs and tracks I had running smoothly and glitch free (all the tweaks for the laptop were done through musicxp.net no upgrades or hardware tweaks).

Love the MAC, but dont diss the PC and vice versa

Freaky

smart1123 · Post by **smart1123** » Thu Oct 13, 2005 9:41 pm

Freakybeatz wrote:
Love the MAC, but dont diss the PC and vice versa

Word

inis · Post by **inis** » Thu Oct 13, 2005 10:46 pm

jamief wrote:
inis wrote:There is definetly be a new powerbook before the intel, because you will not see an intel based powerbook in the beginning of next year. FACT. The only thing you might get a peak at is a G5/iMac, but the laptops are far away, so dont hold your breath.

Yes, dual core is coming out in a G5 as well, before the intel.

The powerbooks will also have improved displays, most likely HD on the 15 and 17" models.

All FACT.
Did IBM make a G5 processor recently that can be kept cool inside a powerbook? yes. Is apple going to waste time ordering something like this before intel? no. There will be new ones, but there no need to jump to G5. Just faster G4's.

Anything else you may have heard from a rumor site, remember, thats exactly what it is. People were talking about the craziest shit eariler this week that might be released today. Obviously it wasnt. It really isnt too hard to predict apple's movements with products if you know where to look.
er welll
all the above is speculation otherwise known as rumour

lol, you really think so? save this post and wait. just wait.

And god dammit, there are some people on this board with their head stuck seriously far up their ass. I dont get into the PCvs.Mac shit because it childish and 90% or the people that argue just say shit like "ya, well my computer smokes all my friends with apple" or vice versa, but shit, dont talk about apple going to intel when you have no clue why they are doing it. This has been discussed many times. So stop writing shit like "apple is finally going intel because they know they kick so much ass compared to IBM". I swear, you give someone a user name ona forum and all of the sudden they think they are qualified to comment on something that they have no idea about. SHUT THE FUCK UP.

AdamJay · Post by **AdamJay** » Thu Oct 13, 2005 10:53 pm

inis wrote:SHUT THE FUCK UP.

cue Alex:

Alex wrote:Hi folks,

I would really appreciate a less usage of any kind of "swear words". You should be able to post your opinion without them too.

thanks and regards,
Alex

amo · Post by **amo** » Thu Oct 13, 2005 10:55 pm

AdamJay wrote:
inis wrote:SHUT THE FUCK UP.
cue Alex:

Alex wrote:Hi folks,

I would really appreciate a less usage of any kind of "swear words". You should be able to post your opinion without them too.

thanks and regards,
Alex

Cool post Adam

peace.
amo

atomic · Post by **atomic** » Fri Oct 14, 2005 12:13 am

inis wrote:
jamief wrote:
inis wrote:dont talk about apple going to intel when you have no clue why they are doing it. This has been discussed many times. So stop writing shit like "apple is finally going intel because they know they kick so much ass compared to IBM".

If you watched that video that was on the mac site for a long time that talked about all mactell stuff he explained why they are going to intell. Based on projection Intell has a WAY better current to computation ratio coming down the pipe. And that is why they are going to intell. That is what mac is saying.

who knows IBM could have faster chips down the line but they are not light on power consumption.

Out

subterFUSE · Post by **subterFUSE** » Fri Oct 14, 2005 12:20 am

If you watched that video that was on the mac site for a long time that talked about all mactell stuff he explained why they are going to intell. Based on projection Intell has a WAY better current to computation ratio coming down the pipe. And that is why they are going to intell. That is what mac is saying.

But do you think that Apple would admit they were being left behind to eat the dust of the PC competition while they waited and waited on IBM to deliver too little, too late?

Of course not. They're going to spin it to keep appearances, which is exactly what has been done.

bigbadotis · Post by **bigbadotis** » Fri Oct 14, 2005 12:55 am

this post on appleinsider is predicting new powerbooks next Wednesday w/ higher res screens but NO SPEED BUMPS. Crazy. I'm sticking with the iMac I ordered... my trusty 800 Mhz Titanium can continue to handle my portable needs.

http://www.appleinsider.com/article.php?id=1320

The good news is they are also calling for dual dual core PowerMacs on the same day. I'm sure those will scream.

polyslax · Post by **polyslax** » Fri Oct 14, 2005 12:57 am

subterFUSE wrote:
If you watched that video that was on the mac site for a long time that talked about all mactell stuff he explained why they are going to intell. Based on projection Intell has a WAY better current to computation ratio coming down the pipe. And that is why they are going to intell. That is what mac is saying.
But do you think that Apple would admit they were being left behind to eat the dust of the PC competition while they waited and waited on IBM to deliver too little, too late?

Of course not. They're going to spin it to keep appearances, which is exactly what has been done.

Strange isn't it that so many musicians, professional and hobbyist alike, keep using and buying Macs. Must keep you up nights!

atomic · Post by **atomic** » Fri Oct 14, 2005 2:26 am

well all i was trying to say is that they where not going to intell for speed. Anyway who cares what chips they use as long as they are getting faster?! I just want faster computers all around. MORE power please. More cycles better sound and so on. That is how i see it.

I am not loosing sleep over this mac vs. Pc crap i own both LOL I love computers and the better they get the happier I am end of story.