Backup sets no longer end up in trash

[MountainPeople]

Starting mid Feb 2023 deleted files from the project backup folder (in excess of 10) no longer end up in bin/trash on MacOS. Does anyone notice the same behaviour or have an explanation?

[[jur]]

If your sets have a different name that could explain it. Eg if you numbered them « my set 1 », « my set 1.2 » etc Live will backup up to 10 version for each number/name.

[MountainPeople]

Thanks but no sets whatsoever which get deleted end up in bin anymore. It totally stopped in Feb 2023. I just did a test with repeated saving on a live set. The 'older' versions get deleted from backup folder but no longer are in the bin. I wonder if Ableton started to hard delete them at some point. If I delete a set from the backup folder manually it does show up in the bin.
I submitted a ticket to Ableton.

[[jur]]

I just tried and I can't reproduce. Older backups are automatically moved to the bin here (on macOS Monterey)

[[nil]]

Maybe somehow the project is on some drive / filesystem that does not support the trash?

[MountainPeople]

thank you! and yes, exactly: my projects folder is on the dropbox location that was introduced beginning of 2023. It's a special folder on the main drive but deletions go to the dropbox bin, not the local bin. Strangely this is not the behaviour when deleting manually from that locatiion.

[lincolnkid]

thank you! and yes, exactly: my projects folder is on the dropbox location that was introduced beginning of 2023.

You may like to read this Ableton article on other issues you could have when using cloud storage for your projects... https://help.ableton.com/hc/en-us/artic ... -Practices