Monitoring with Pre-Roll - ISSUE SOLVED, thanks all

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Laura R
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Monitoring with Pre-Roll - ISSUE SOLVED, thanks all

Post by Laura R » Tue Jun 04, 2024 7:48 pm

Hi Guys, I've switched to Ableton from Pro Tools, and I have a question about punching in. Is it possible to monitor/listen to the previously recorded pre-roll portion of a track before the punch in loop begins? In Pro Tools, the previously recorded portion of a track plays until the punch in starts, and then you can use the new part that you played during pre-roll, as well as the new punched section. I'm hearing silence during the pre-roll section rather than the previously recorded audio track that I'm punching over. Couldn't find any posts or videos about this specific question. I may just be doing it wrong. LMK if you have any thoughts and thanks for reading.
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Re: Monitoring with Pre-Roll

Post by dsu » Wed Jun 05, 2024 2:01 am

I don't know Protools so I can't comment on how Ableton compares but I did do punch ins on 2 in tape back in the 70's so I get the concept.

Given the essentially unlimited track available I never punch in. Rather I use a new track.

So now question becomes how to create a loop of an area where the performer can just play away.

This video explains the process in Live much better than I can write it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uSzDKw-GFIU


Hope this helps

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Re: Monitoring with Pre-Roll

Post by [jur] » Wed Jun 05, 2024 3:25 am

Laura R wrote:
Tue Jun 04, 2024 7:48 pm
Is it possible to monitor/listen to the previously recorded pre-roll portion of a track before the punch in loop begins?
Click in the timeline to place your playhead anywhere you want to pre-roll, hit rec and play.
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Laura R
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Re: Monitoring with Pre-Roll

Post by Laura R » Wed Jun 05, 2024 6:49 pm

Thanks for responding. When I do that, I'm not able to hear the previously recorded pre-roll before the punch in begins. I just hear silence. In Pro Tools, I can listen back to previously recorded audio on the same track I'm recording on before the punch in happens. I'm trying to figure out how to do that in Live 12. For now, I'm just duplicating the track and turning the volume down in the punch in sections with automation, but I'm hoping to find a better solution.

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Re: Monitoring with Pre-Roll

Post by slow.robot » Thu Jun 06, 2024 12:59 am

sounds like you have your monitor mode set to 'in' for the track. setting it to 'auto' should play back the recorded bit until it punches you in. the only potential downside is you can't also won't be able to hear your playing until the punch.

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Re: Monitoring with Pre-Roll

Post by Laura R » Thu Jun 06, 2024 9:41 pm

slow.robot wrote:
Thu Jun 06, 2024 12:59 am
sounds like you have your monitor mode set to 'in' for the track. setting it to 'auto' should play back the recorded bit until it punches you in. the only potential downside is you can't also won't be able to hear your playing until the punch.
This fixed the issue perfectly! Thanks so much for responding. Had a feeling it was something this simple. :)

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Re: Monitoring with Pre-Roll

Post by Laura R » Thu Jun 06, 2024 9:43 pm

dsu wrote:
Wed Jun 05, 2024 2:01 am
I don't know Protools so I can't comment on how Ableton compares but I did do punch ins on 2 in tape back in the 70's so I get the concept.

Given the essentially unlimited track available I never punch in. Rather I use a new track.

So now question becomes how to create a loop of an area where the performer can just play away.

This video explains the process in Live much better than I can write it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uSzDKw-GFIU


Hope this helps
Thanks for responding. Found a few great take lanes tips that I hadn't learned in my Live 11+12 class. Have a good night.

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Re: Monitoring with Pre-Roll - ISSUE SOLVED, thanks all

Post by jonljacobi » Fri Jun 07, 2024 2:51 pm

I do a lot of audio recording with Live. Using "In" or "Auto" introduces latency. You're better leaving Ableton's monitoring off and use the interface's. The only time I use "In" is if I want to check tuning, or see what's happening with the signal EQ or strength-wise.

BTW, Ableton actually records from where ever you start to where ever you end, not just between the punch in and punch out points. So if you want to make sure you can merge a punch in smoothly, put the playback/insert marker a bar or two in front of the punch in/punch out. Loop recording is one long recording as well. Clips (and takes) are just windows that show the appropriate portion.

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