unwarped imports

[FlightPlan]

I was without a computer for awhile and so recorded some clips in my 4MS sampler. I'm now trying to organize them in an Ableton project and imported them as 'unwarped.' I'd like to loop them and have the same kind of functionality as native Abe recorded tracks, but if I apply the warp to the clip will it automatically quantize or somehow alter the original? Or does that only happen if you warp it in 'beat mode'? What's the best way to do this?

TIA for the help!

Win11 - Ableton 11.3.25

[yur2die4]

You can’t loop if it is not warped. This would be a hella solid feature request if you ask me.

As for warped, if you do not plan to change the global tempo, you can use Repitch with a single warp marker where the ‘Segment bpm’ is the same as that of the global tempo. But looping will be represented in divisions of tempo, which doesn’t make the most sense for this use case.

[JasonW]

Yes, the key might be to just make sure you have the project tempo set to the same as the audio file you're importing, before you import. But I'm not clear on what your end goal is, and what the input files are like (all the same tempo, multiple tempos between or within files, etc) so it's hard to suggest specifics.

[FlightPlan]

You can’t loop if it is not warped. This would be a hella solid feature request if you ask me.

As for warped, if you do not plan to change the global tempo, you can use Repitch with a single warp marker where the ‘Segment bpm’ is the same as that of the global tempo. But looping will be represented in divisions of tempo, which doesn’t make the most sense for this use case.

Guess I wasn't thinking of looping as "divisions of tempo" - rather it would be an asynchronous re-trigger of the whole clip - if it will play once, why can't it simply replay from the begin point on finish?

Clocking is essential to a rhythmic part, but how would you treat a field recording that's tempo-irregular? Or slow unclocked atmospheric/ ambient pad swells ? In that case it would seem that looking for transients to shift around shouldn't apply - instead couldn't you simply section the clip into micro slices relative to the project tempo and time shift those as necessary for say, pitch effects?

[yur2die4]

So this is why I suggest a single marker and repitch.

Repitch changes the speed of the clip in relation to the tempo of the Clip compared to the tempo of the Set. If they are both the same amount, then it will not change the pitch or speed.

If you use a single marker, you’re not thoroughly forcing the clip to follow along and contort at each beat. It’s just a command to Live what the bpm is compared to the Global bpm. If you had a marker every 4 bars or every 8th note etc, that’d imply that you deliberately want certain things hitting in line with certain rhythmic moments.

You could use Simpler or Sampler, but then you can’t see the waveform in Arrangement View. In Session View, you might be able to use Follow Actions.

But yeah, this would be way easier and more intuitive if Live allowed unwarped clips to loop. At this stage of the software’s existence it would make a lot of sense to add that workflow.

[cheakypawl]

You can’t loop if it is not warped. This would be a hella solid feature request if you ask me...

Eh? Of course non warped audio can be looped. Copy paste, for one... very strange thing to say.

[yur2die4]

That’s kinda different. There are different qualities to duplicated clips vs looped clips. I agree it is similar, but still different.

If copy paste or duplicate was fine, then we wouldn’t have any use for a Loop button for warped clips?

[cheakypawl]

[quote=yur2die4 post_id=1826316 time=1720696704 user_id=82949]
That’s kinda different. There are different qualities to duplicated clips vs looped clips. I agree it is similar, but still different.

If copy paste or duplicate was fine, then we wouldn’t have any use for a Loop button for warped clips?
[/quote]

Yes, I agree with your points.