Confused.. why does pressing stop set volume to 0

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DoYouLikeHam
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Confused.. why does pressing stop set volume to 0

Post by DoYouLikeHam » Mon Sep 09, 2024 5:05 pm

See linked video..

I'm confused why when I hit 'stop' it seems that the Volume property of the VST is getting set to 0 and causing automation to need to be reenabled.

https://youtu.be/kf_1S7ZYJCo

What is going on.. and how do I 'fix' this... I don't want pressing Stop to cause that to happen.

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Re: Confused.. why does pressing stop set volume to 0

Post by scg » Mon Sep 09, 2024 11:49 pm

Maybe someone else will know the answer immediately, but meanwhile, here are some questions:

- Does it only happen with that plugin and/or that particular plugin parameter?

- Does it happen if the parameter isn't automated? If you load that plugin up in a new, otherwise empty project, does the volume still reset every time the transport stops?

DoYouLikeHam
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Re: Confused.. why does pressing stop set volume to 0

Post by DoYouLikeHam » Thu Sep 12, 2024 11:30 am

- Does it happen if the parameter isn't automated? If you load that plugin up in a new, otherwise empty project, does the volume still reset every time the transport stops?

Yes.. I just tried in brand new project... very simple midi.. just a power chord.. after stopping, the volume in the VST is set to 0.

I'll have to try some of the other VSTs I have from Impact Soundworks (other guitars) to see if the same issue.

I'm wondering how to try in another DAW.. I don't have one.. except Garage Band... hmm...

DoYouLikeHam
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Re: Confused.. why does pressing stop set volume to 0

Post by DoYouLikeHam » Thu Sep 12, 2024 4:31 pm

Seems to be a 'feature' of Ableton.. SMH.

https://youtu.be/5xJQPktVRCc

It may be noted that this seems specific to using Kontakt within Komplete Kontrol... if I use Kontakt as my instrument in Ableton, I don't have the issues.

So... is the issue on Ableton? or is the issue on Native Instruments?

DoYouLikeHam
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Re: Confused.. why does pressing stop set volume to 0

Post by DoYouLikeHam » Fri Sep 13, 2024 2:25 pm

simpler way to reproduce...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iG8OTKgSN7k

end of video shows versions of Live, Komplete Kontrol, and Kontakt

DoYouLikeHam
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Re: Confused.. why does pressing stop set volume to 0

Post by DoYouLikeHam » Sat Sep 14, 2024 6:40 pm

FWIW.. I checked this in Live 11.3.21.. with both KK 2.9.4 and 3.3.2.. and the issue exists in those combinations as well.

Also exists with other VST... in this case, Thrill from Native Instruments:

https://youtu.be/M7tLfD3MSHQ

DoYouLikeHam
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Re: Confused.. why does pressing stop set volume to 0

Post by DoYouLikeHam » Sun Sep 15, 2024 5:36 pm

Another issue with Live / Komplete Kontrol...

https://youtu.be/zLrk6LI0LzU

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Re: Confused.. why does pressing stop set volume to 0

Post by cids » Mon Sep 16, 2024 3:02 pm

Did you contact Native Instruments about it?
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DoYouLikeHam
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Re: Confused.. why does pressing stop set volume to 0

Post by DoYouLikeHam » Mon Sep 16, 2024 3:20 pm

Yes.. cases logged with both vendors… unclear which needs to be fixed… or if changes are needed on both sides.

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