Largest NVMe drive for Push 3 Standalone

[CH7]

Are you suggesting that it would better not to use a thermal pad on the larger, hotter NVMe? If not, what are you proposing? Install a larger NVMe but without any cooling? Never make any changes to this perfectly optimized device?

You also seem to imply that it is better to run the P3S without a thermal pad on the factory-installed NVMe. That seems unlikely to me.

I dispute your intimation that I should live in fear that someone blows up something, and they sue me as a private individual. That would be very unlikely; the suit would have to be brought in Canada, and the cost of the lawsuit would much greater than the expense; even if they won, they would not get their expenses covered.

The worst that should happen is that the system throttles back as it heats up. Doing this repeatedly to the extent that the system ages quickly is unlikely because it would run unacceptably slowly. Without a concrete suggestion, this sounds like fearmongering.

What would be helpful would be publishing the results of running a P3S hard while monitoring the CPU heat via ssh, and putting a temperature probe on various NVMes.

Data and provable facts rule. I welcome any test results that you can provide.

I did not mean to ruffle your feathers, Im just saying 'Buyer beware!'
I have never seen where an M.2 share the heatsink of a significant heat source like a processor.

I agree with you, testing is required. Im sure Ableton did this for their SSD solution.
It could be that a thicker thermal pad mitigates heat flow back to the M.2.

Since this is your proposition, you could do the experiments to prove the idea sound.
Maybe install heat sensors on the m.2. and monitor externally.

[littletinymonkey]

*Blush*

Thank you!

Heads up: On 'Supersizing a Partition and it's file system', your 'Recreating a File System' hyperlink jumps down a bit too far, to fndmnt, instead of what I believe was intended, 'Recreating a File System'.

[mslinn]

Thank you, please let me know of any other issues.

Mike

[mslinn]

I wrote a follow-on article, Thermal Control, and updated Ableton Push 3 NVMe Replacement.

[Pandamonia]

great articles @mslinn

[mslinn]

Thank you!

[kreativsein]

I wrote a follow-on article, Thermal Control, and updated Ableton Push 3 NVMe Replacement.

hi, i want to upgrad my ssd aswell but one question before, is there an ssd what has the same height?
i do not need 4tb so in this case i can use a 1 oder 2 tb for this what fits exactly like the stock one?

[kreativsein]

I wrote a follow-on article, Thermal Control, and updated Ableton Push 3 NVMe Replacement.

hi, i want to upgrad my ssd aswell but one question before, is there an ssd what has the same height?
i do not need 4tb so in this case i can use a 1 oder 2 tb for this what fits exactly like the stock one?

also wanted to make sure i can use ur tutorial for a virtualbox running on a mac m1?

[mslinn]

SSDs can have a USB interface, a SATA interface or an NVMe interface. The storage component within all of these SSDs is essentially the same. The P3S has an internal SSD with an NVMe interface; this is usually called an NVMe drive.

By "height", I believe you actually mean "thickness". The advantage of using a slender single-sided NVMe drive in a P3S is that the P3S retaining pin would be able to hold the NVMe in place. Not mentioned in the articles is the length and width of NVMe drives: the P3S is designed to use "2280" NVMe drives. "2280" denotes a module that is 22 mm wide and 80 mm long. So you might search for: 1 tb nvme single-sided 2280. When I did that, I found a Samsung 1TB PM961, which looks like a perfect match for a P3S.

Another important detail that I did not mention in the articles is the requirement of controlling static electricity. If you accidentally zap an NVMe drive with a spark from your finger, its contents might get wiped out, or its electronics might be destroyed.

The article I wrote on VirtualBox says it runs the same on all supported host OSes. Clonezilla runs the same because it always runs on Linux. However, if you have never used Linux before, then I do not recommend you leap in and attempt to perform open-heart surgery on your P3S. Instead, install VirtualBox, then Ubuntu as described in the VirtualBox article. Play with Ubuntu Linux for many hours, running various programs and becoming familiar with how Ubuntu Linux works. Read about Linux and Ubuntu. Then start experimenting with cloning various drives. Once you have mastered all that, you might consider opening up your P3S and performing open-heart surgery.

Another option you have, once you have installed Ubuntu Linux in VirtualBox, is to share your screen with someone who has worked extensively with Linux and has cloned Linux ext4 drives before. Let them do the surgery while you watch.

Yet another option is to give your P3S to someone who is used to doing this sort of work. Let them open it without zapping anything with static electricity, and perform the open-heart surgery.

[kreativsein]

yeah i guess this is the best option for me thanks for the answer !
iam just strugleing with 10gb of free space push 3 is my main workstation so i realy want more space

anyway thanks for details and great tutorial