Piano Sound is thin

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Lar-ZZ
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Piano Sound is thin

Post by Lar-ZZ » Thu Dec 19, 2024 1:46 am

How do I make a big fat piano sound?
When I pull in an Ableton Instrument Grand Paino, add reverb and delay, it sounds good but, really small and thin.

I have added Dynamic Tube to boost output and add some drive, ad an EQ and boost the bass, but it still sounds like a small piano.
Same thing when I use Audio In a for a Yamaha MODX synth. It sounds good, but not the rich quality I expect.

I have 8" JBL studio monitors, that should be as good as it gets. Do I need more speakers?
What other effects or tricks do you use in Ableton 12 to get a big full sound.

dsu
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Re: Piano Sound is thin

Post by dsu » Thu Dec 19, 2024 3:50 am

For a big piano sound try playing with some (or a lot of compression). Piano's are hard to get right. It is why there are so many sampled piano libraries out there.

Lar-ZZ
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Re: Piano Sound is thin

Post by Lar-ZZ » Thu Dec 19, 2024 7:48 am

When I am playing live, I could add more force. My fingers ae probably a big part of the problem.

Is there any way to add more velocity in Ableton MIDI data.

Rivanni
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Re: Piano Sound is thin

Post by Rivanni » Thu Dec 19, 2024 3:20 pm

Lar-ZZ wrote:
Thu Dec 19, 2024 7:48 am
Is there any way to add more velocity in Ableton MIDI data.
Use the MIDI Effect 'Velocity'.
It can change low velocities to higher ones, which is what you need.

Lar-ZZ
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Re: Piano Sound is thin

Post by Lar-ZZ » Thu Dec 19, 2024 5:10 pm

Velocity, OK that's the ticket. That may give me some options.
That is definitely worth experimenting with.

I am also going to try moving my monitors. Right now they are 6" off the floor under my desk.
I am going to move them out from under the desk, 6 feet from me. I may add a set of 5" monitors to fill out the sound.

Lar-ZZ
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Re: Piano Sound is thin

Post by Lar-ZZ » Thu Dec 19, 2024 9:36 pm

MIDI Velocity made a huge difference, Thanks.
It appears that everything I click in is at medium velocity so there is a lot of room to change.

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