Downgrade to Ableton 12.1.5
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Reyn Ouwehand
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Downgrade to Ableton 12.1.5
Is it possible to download the installer of Ableton 12.1.5?
I just upgraded to 12.1.10 but instead of introducing less crashes, it introduced more crashes in my (complex) live-setup.
In the archive you can only download a 12.0.25 version, but not just one previous version, in this case 12.1.5.
Cheers, Reyn.
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I just upgraded to 12.1.10 but instead of introducing less crashes, it introduced more crashes in my (complex) live-setup.
In the archive you can only download a 12.0.25 version, but not just one previous version, in this case 12.1.5.
Cheers, Reyn.
www.reyn.net
Re: Downgrade to Ableton 12.1.5
Windows:
https://cdn-downloads.ableton.com/chann ... 1.5_64.zip
macOS:
https://cdn-downloads.ableton.com/chann ... versal.dmg
Replace suite with lite, intro, or standard if you need to download one of these editions.
https://cdn-downloads.ableton.com/chann ... 1.5_64.zip
macOS:
https://cdn-downloads.ableton.com/chann ... versal.dmg
Replace suite with lite, intro, or standard if you need to download one of these editions.
Re: Downgrade to Ableton 12.1.5
Had one super hard crash as well, 5 minutes into making a new track but after that it was running smooth for about 2 hours or so without any further crashes. Not sure if it´s crashing more constant for you.Reyn Ouwehand wrote: ↑Tue Feb 25, 2025 7:01 pmIs it possible to download the installer of Ableton 12.1.5?
I just upgraded to 12.1.10 but instead of introducing less crashes, it introduced more crashes in my (complex) live-setup.
In the archive you can only download a 12.0.25 version, but not just one previous version, in this case 12.1.5.
Cheers, Reyn.
www.reyn.net
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Reyn Ouwehand
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Re: Downgrade to Ableton 12.1.5
Rivanni wrote: ↑Tue Feb 25, 2025 8:35 pmWindows:
https://cdn-downloads.ableton.com/chann ... 1.5_64.zip
macOS:
https://cdn-downloads.ableton.com/chann ... versal.dmg
Replace suite with lite, intro, or standard if you need to download one of these editions.
Ahh cheers Rivanni! You're a life saver! R.
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Reyn Ouwehand
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Re: Downgrade to Ableton 12.1.5
Ah so sorry Mr. Adl..
I noticed that already a few times changing presets on Gatekeeper of Polyverse made Ableton crash hardcore. And it's crashing kinda random. And even one then I wasn't playing. Going back to 12.1.5 for the moment. The only crash lately with 12.1.5 is that Ableton crashes when I close the session. Even when I load a simple session before closing Ableton, it hangs..
R.
Re: Downgrade to Ableton 12.1.5
It'd be great if you could report your crashes to Support.
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Re: Downgrade to Ableton 12.1.5
3 fatal crashes within 20m
really not impressed and very quickly losing my patience with Live
I can consistently make it crash by pressing the STOP button
really not impressed and very quickly losing my patience with Live
I can consistently make it crash by pressing the STOP button
scruffyfox.fm
Re: Downgrade to Ableton 12.1.5
I'm usually more cautious, but this time I updated blindly to 12.1.10 (my next gig is in 1 month, so I've got time to manage eventual problems).
No issue on my system so far (Macbook Pro M1, Sonoma 14.7.4).
EDIT : unfortunately, see below my following post...
Please give you specs when giving your impression on an update : it can be useful for other users...
No issue on my system so far (Macbook Pro M1, Sonoma 14.7.4).
EDIT : unfortunately, see below my following post...
Please give you specs when giving your impression on an update : it can be useful for other users...
Re: Downgrade to Ableton 12.1.5
mmm. I didn't have any crash while testing Live with some mixing sessions, but I did run a "live concert" session this afternoon, and it was a crashing party.
It seems this new Live version doesn't like the M4L device "Midi Hub". It's a device I use on a lot of Live sets to control vsti with my keyboard.
Each time it crashed, it was because I did tweak a knob or a fader linked to "Midi Hub"...
I will send my crash logs to the support, but before that I will downgrade to 12.1.5...
It seems this new Live version doesn't like the M4L device "Midi Hub". It's a device I use on a lot of Live sets to control vsti with my keyboard.
Each time it crashed, it was because I did tweak a knob or a fader linked to "Midi Hub"...
I will send my crash logs to the support, but before that I will downgrade to 12.1.5...
Re: Downgrade to Ableton 12.1.5
Also many crashes here today as well.
Two of the crashes threw this alert:
"No /GUI found for class InstrumentGroupDevice within corners."
I submitted CR's (and a screen shot of the above alert as well).
o99
Two of the crashes threw this alert:
"No /GUI found for class InstrumentGroupDevice within corners."
I submitted CR's (and a screen shot of the above alert as well).
o99
Perform. rig
MacBook Pro 2023 | M3 Max | OS 15.7.2 | 36 Gb RAM | MicroBook IIc | Akai APC40 MkII | LIVE 12 Suite
Prod. rig
Mac Studio M1 Max | OS 15.7.2 | 64 Gb RAM | MiniStack STX | ApolloX6 | Live 12 Suite
MacBook Pro 2023 | M3 Max | OS 15.7.2 | 36 Gb RAM | MicroBook IIc | Akai APC40 MkII | LIVE 12 Suite
Prod. rig
Mac Studio M1 Max | OS 15.7.2 | 64 Gb RAM | MiniStack STX | ApolloX6 | Live 12 Suite
Re: Downgrade to Ableton 12.1.5
Wow -- Is it possible to downgrade? ...I thought that sets saved under subsequent versions no longer open in the previous ones...
o99
Perform. rig
MacBook Pro 2023 | M3 Max | OS 15.7.2 | 36 Gb RAM | MicroBook IIc | Akai APC40 MkII | LIVE 12 Suite
Prod. rig
Mac Studio M1 Max | OS 15.7.2 | 64 Gb RAM | MiniStack STX | ApolloX6 | Live 12 Suite
MacBook Pro 2023 | M3 Max | OS 15.7.2 | 36 Gb RAM | MicroBook IIc | Akai APC40 MkII | LIVE 12 Suite
Prod. rig
Mac Studio M1 Max | OS 15.7.2 | 64 Gb RAM | MiniStack STX | ApolloX6 | Live 12 Suite
Re: Downgrade to Ableton 12.1.5
As long as the first two numbers in the version number (so in this case 12.1) are the same, everything is compatible.
Re: Downgrade to Ableton 12.1.5
Thanks, Rivanni! I was unaware of this important detail.
o99
Perform. rig
MacBook Pro 2023 | M3 Max | OS 15.7.2 | 36 Gb RAM | MicroBook IIc | Akai APC40 MkII | LIVE 12 Suite
Prod. rig
Mac Studio M1 Max | OS 15.7.2 | 64 Gb RAM | MiniStack STX | ApolloX6 | Live 12 Suite
MacBook Pro 2023 | M3 Max | OS 15.7.2 | 36 Gb RAM | MicroBook IIc | Akai APC40 MkII | LIVE 12 Suite
Prod. rig
Mac Studio M1 Max | OS 15.7.2 | 64 Gb RAM | MiniStack STX | ApolloX6 | Live 12 Suite
Re: Downgrade to Ableton 12.1.5
After three more crashes this morning I have "downgraded" for now.
Will report on stability presently, but for now -- thanks again to you all for your collective wisdom!
o99
Will report on stability presently, but for now -- thanks again to you all for your collective wisdom!
o99
Perform. rig
MacBook Pro 2023 | M3 Max | OS 15.7.2 | 36 Gb RAM | MicroBook IIc | Akai APC40 MkII | LIVE 12 Suite
Prod. rig
Mac Studio M1 Max | OS 15.7.2 | 64 Gb RAM | MiniStack STX | ApolloX6 | Live 12 Suite
MacBook Pro 2023 | M3 Max | OS 15.7.2 | 36 Gb RAM | MicroBook IIc | Akai APC40 MkII | LIVE 12 Suite
Prod. rig
Mac Studio M1 Max | OS 15.7.2 | 64 Gb RAM | MiniStack STX | ApolloX6 | Live 12 Suite
Re: Downgrade to Ableton 12.1.5
But first, before downgrading ensure that you have Live's auto-update feature set to "Ask" or "Never," or you'll be right back into 12.1.10
o99
o99
Perform. rig
MacBook Pro 2023 | M3 Max | OS 15.7.2 | 36 Gb RAM | MicroBook IIc | Akai APC40 MkII | LIVE 12 Suite
Prod. rig
Mac Studio M1 Max | OS 15.7.2 | 64 Gb RAM | MiniStack STX | ApolloX6 | Live 12 Suite
MacBook Pro 2023 | M3 Max | OS 15.7.2 | 36 Gb RAM | MicroBook IIc | Akai APC40 MkII | LIVE 12 Suite
Prod. rig
Mac Studio M1 Max | OS 15.7.2 | 64 Gb RAM | MiniStack STX | ApolloX6 | Live 12 Suite