Expand / resize views on ALL instruments

[akela]

Dear Ableton,

Version 10 is great! I'm very happy to see some great new features like Echo and Wavetable, more detail on Push's screen, and some lovely keyboard shortcuts.

That said, I am a little bit disappointed that it's 2018 and we still can't resize instrument windows. An FM synth the size of a business card on my screen is just REALLY hard to see.

I will say that the expanded view of Wavetable is EXCELLENT, but I really would like that option to be extended to other Instruments. Especially Operator. Please.


Thank you,

[evolvetek]

1000% bump.

[ecranberriest]

Agree so hard with this! I love wavetable's layout.

Dear Ableton,

Version 10 is great! I'm very happy to see some great new features like Echo and Wavetable, more detail on Push's screen, and some lovely keyboard shortcuts.

That said, I am a little bit disappointed that it's 2018 and we still can't resize instrument windows. An FM synth the size of a business card on my screen is just REALLY hard to see.

I will say that the expanded view of Wavetable is EXCELLENT, but I really would like that option to be extended to other Instruments. Especially Operator. Please.


Thank you,

[evolvetek]

bajillion percent bump ... super surprised live 11 did not address this ... i suspect it's a fundamental design disagreement at a high enough level ... but i am a user, and i suspect there are more that agree with me than not ... i likely won't take the time to objectively demonstrate this posit, however ...

anyway ... please do it ... and don't hard code it ... make it dynamic, like mac OS and window scaling ...

finally ... why is this not more obvious to more people ? i will take the time to desire to understand this, if anyone responds that is

[RaadsKoen]

or that Device wIndow itself can resized, indepent from the rest, you can resize live as a whole, so not why not the devices only?

[evolvetek]

quadrillion percent bump. VST's have been standardized as independently resizable for some time now.

i suspect the lack of functionality around this has to do w/ core code writing that never considered independent resizing into consideration and would require significant decoupling and rewriting of libraries.

i would even settle for a multi-session approach that enabled me to have one version of live at one zoom percentage, and another (popped-out window) at a different percentage.

or ... bitwig?

[Teddy66]

Found this thread through a Google search and thought it's time for a bumpety bump.

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consider implementing this feature in the next 12 update, SERIOUSLY. I think EVERYONE using your software would like to see this.

EVERY OTHER DAW that I can think of, including 3rd party software instruments have a resize feature. Why is this not available in Live for ALL devices?

Your software is stellar, it really is, but come on, give users the ability (in ALL versions of Live and with ALL devices) to be able to open them in a separate, larger & resizable window.

Thank you kindly.

[notecrusher]

Totally agree, resizing instrument windows would be a huge help. Fingers crossed Ableton adds that feature soon.

[evolvetek]

infinite percent bump. and to be clear - this is DEVICES - not merely instruments (we mean effects, etc, too)

i'm not sure this will be possible given the graphical capabilities of this layer of ableton's architecture, unfortunately.

but even if it were "hacked together" it would be better than the current user experience.

something like:

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- given that individual detachable windows (there are currently two available to my knowledge) can be scaled and resized separately where various component areas change position depending on the size of the window ...
  - enable a separate device window assignability, that creates what amounts to Window 3 (W3)
- W3 should be independently scalable, or lockable to percentage scaling, similar to currently supported window scaling
- W3 should simply take the horizontal "overview scrolling" mechanics currently supported for the device area
  - if W3 is detachable, controls for left-to-right overview scrolling should come with W3, and it should have an "always on top" simple function
  - if W3 remains in place, using the new resizing / stackable interface functionality, the "overview scrolling" should remain in place on the bottom right of the UI
- in addition, after creating W3, W4 to Wn should also be supported, and should be stackable, and devices could be dragged and dropped between Wn's similarly to how they are already supported, if they are certain instrument or effect types
- this would of course apply to
  - max instruments
  - max audio effects
  - max midi effects
  - ableton instruments
  - ableton audio effects
  - ableton midi effects
  - vst, aau, bla supported plugin interface renders

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[apartyupinhere]

Ableton,
Please make Operator expandable. Please!

[lucianthorr]

Found this while googling how to make the Sampler larger.

I'm getting a sore neck having to scrunch down to look at the bottom left of my monitor in order to do anything other than use the presets for these instruments.

Also, Sampler specific, the keyboard view doesn't zoom either when assigning samples to specific key ranges. That's a nine octave keyboard in less than 3 inches!

[Peregrino69]

BUMP!

I really love Ableton, but trying to see any details on the very narrow strip on the bottom of the screen is literally a pain. I mean literally, not figuratively literally. I do get that most users are probably young with better eyesight... but a 20/20 sight shouldn't be a requirement to use an audio application. IMO, ofc.

[ianstudio]

BUMP!

I really love Ableton, but trying to see any details on the very narrow strip on the bottom of the screen is literally a pain. I mean literally, not figuratively literally. I do get that most users are probably young with better eyesight... but a 20/20 sight shouldn't be a requirement to use an audio application. IMO, ofc.

It is surreal they are not addressing this. It's not just an eyesight issue but a location. So many simple things they could implement like the possibility to move the strip at the top of the window, or move Browser to the right (carpal tunnel.. most people are right-handed.. I believe..). It is paradoxical that they created a modular-looking interface yet lock the modules in place. Many apps allow you to customize the interface.. Adobe etc. I'm having a love-hate relationship with Ableton.

And yet the Expanded View should be much more exploited, even to host third-party plugins as an alternative to floating windows, if so-desired (Mac plugin Host App Sessions that does that wonderfully well).

Ableton is both forward-thinking and left behind.. it's really odd.