How has your stems separation experience been ?

[Mister Natural]

I understand it's early in development cycle but I'm so fascinated by the idea . . .
lemme know

[cids]

Best to post this in the beta specific Centercode Public Beta user forum

[Mister Natural]

and I've given stems separation a little experimental play and it's pretty solid for the bassline . . .
anyone else w/feedback ?

[Calagan]

I use Spectralayers and RX. To my surprise, The Live version is often doing its job better.
The spectralayers one offers a better workflow by its very nature, because you still can copy/paste between layers (for exemple, take some drums elements that were placeed in the "others" track and move them back to drums).
But I find that very often the Ableton Live stem separation is working better.

The only thing I'm missing is the choice of 32-bits for the exports, so I can copy/paste as often I want between tracks witout reducing quality...

P.S. : I must say I don't use stem separation very often, as I don't truly need this feature. It usually helps only to analyze a reference song...

[RobrechtV]

I use it to isolate live drums and bass from rehearsal recordings, to quickly get a solid base for the home studio demo of the songs we're working on.

I just record the rehearsal space in stereo using the built-in mics on my 32-bit Tascam recorder. No need to put separate mics all over the drum kit and somehow keep all the other instruments quiet: we just play through the new song like we normally would.

Then at home I isolate the drums and bass, and use Superior Drummer to layer the kick, snare and toms with close-mic'd samples. Combined with the isolated recording for cymbals, this makes for a surprisingly good, wide, detailed, roomy, natural and powerful drum track.

Since we play to a click anyway, I can just drop the drums and bass into the project along with the guitars, vocals and synths I've been recording at home. This has proven to be a great workflow to quickly get good-sounding demos without having to take out extra time to record drums and bass separately.

I started out experimenting with various models in UVR5, but I get better results out of the box with Live's stem separation. The drums sound as clean as if there never was a full doom/death metal band playing along in the same room, without the artefacts and phasing/filtering effects i was getting with UVR5.

The only thing I'd like is a little more control over what gets recognized as what: when our bassist plays higher up the neck, those notes aren't always recognized as bass notes – something UVR5 also struggled with. But for drums, it's been impeccable.

[Mister Natural]

Finding it cool that(anecdotally) drums and bass are workable. I'm too squeamish to isolate my own vocal from 20yrs ago ! Yikes
I've only experimented with bass stem audio from random streamed song in high Q mode & yeah, it took about a cup of coffee in the other room to complete stem separation > convert to midi > loop that w/a Drift instrument > Successfully
I've give it more run next - anyone else ?