Crashes/Windows Reboot on Live 12

[DerGeist]

Hi all

I have recently updated from Live 10 to 12 motivated by the comping feature. The new features seem great, when I can use them, but am having some rather severe crash problems. When I start live i get the spinning blue "i'm thinking" circle. If I am lucky, don't touch anything, and the stars align, live will load. About 50% of the time it freezes immediatly. The rest of the time it will load but will usually freeze a few minutes in. If I change to another app or do anything other than very carefully click around ableton it will crash. In all cases, it not only crashes but also takes windows with it. I get a too fast to read windows message but it definitley inlcudes the word KERNEL. This led me to think it was a hardware issue but:

- Live10 works great with the same project and no new hardware or plugins
- CPU and and RAM usage is low
- I throw way more CPU and graphics intensive programs at this computer and it does fine.
- Did I mention Live 10 works with the same project?

Issue happens with both a blank template or a complex project (both load in live 10). I have run as an administor and in safe mode (Alt) with no luck. My PC and graphics card drivers are up to date. I have re-installed live.

Any help you can provide is appreciated.

PC:
AMD 7600 X3D
NVIDA 4080
32 gigs of ram
Focusrite scarlett 18i8 1st gen
Push 2
Loads of samsung SSD storage
many plugins

[DerGeist]

Update.

It looks like I was wrong and Live 10 seems to have the same issue. Managed to see the failure message (mostly) KERNEL SECURITY CHECK FAILURE.

This does feel like a windows or hardware issue but every program that is not Live works fine -- I am not Hans Zimmer so this computer has multiple uses. I have disconnected my USB hub and all USB devices and did an sfc/scanow for security fixes and everything seems fine. Reaper is also working fine..

I am at a loss.

Tim

[DerGeist]

I seem to have fixed it. If it helps anyone else, Live all of a sudden seem to take issue with some AKAI network DAW drivers. Not sure why there became an issue all of a sudden but as soon as i removed them Live came, well, back to life.

[kitekrazy]

does it repeat if you plug the Akai back in?

Sometimes you have to check if USB devices are in power saving. Sometimes a Windows update will undo small things.