Envelope follower mappings

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globaltetrahedron67
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Envelope follower mappings

Post by globaltetrahedron67 » Thu May 14, 2026 5:38 am

I apologize if this is asked frequently, but I searched through threads here and found nothing.

Is there a way to see what parameters an envelope follower is controlling? If I dig up an old project I am not likely to recall. The buttons in the multimap pane seem to store the name, but "7 Gain B" isn't too suggestive. I thought maybe hovering over the button would show the destination in the status bar but I don't see anything there.

I wonder if there is something like the macro mapping pane that appears with audio racks? Or is there a workaround or trick to this by using an audio rack? I feel like I'm missing something and starting to feel pretty silly

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Re: Envelope follower mappings

Post by [jur] » Thu May 14, 2026 5:46 am

It works the other way around: if you click a mapped parameter, the Status bar will tell "this device, in this track" is controlling this parameter. It's not ideal, I know, but that's what we have for the time being.
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Re: Envelope follower mappings

Post by globaltetrahedron67 » Thu May 14, 2026 6:48 am

Got it- that helps!

Maybe a sign to calm down on my mapping.... just started using it in earnest and most certainly going overboard. 8)

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Re: Envelope follower mappings

Post by [jur] » Thu May 14, 2026 7:17 am

globaltetrahedron67 wrote:
Thu May 14, 2026 6:48 am
Maybe a sign to calm down on my mapping....
that would be sad!
You can rename devices with information about the mappings, or use the Info View maybe (right-click a device's header > "edit info text")
Or use a notepad type M4L device.
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Re: Envelope follower mappings

Post by doubleUG » Thu May 14, 2026 2:00 pm

put the envelope follower next to the device you modulate and use the sidechain input.
copy the text, open Live > drag in empty M4L device > open Max editor > paste > save M4L device
https://docs.cycling74.com/max8/vignett ... ng_patches

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Re: Envelope follower mappings

Post by globaltetrahedron67 » Thu May 14, 2026 7:27 pm

doubleUG wrote:
Thu May 14, 2026 2:00 pm
put the envelope follower next to the device you modulate and use the sidechain input.
i guess my issue is i do a good amount of mapping to tracks external to the envelope follower. ie have the reverb tail of something affected by the synth, etc
[jur] wrote:
Thu May 14, 2026 7:17 am
globaltetrahedron67 wrote:
Thu May 14, 2026 6:48 am
Maybe a sign to calm down on my mapping....
that would be sad!
You can rename devices with information about the mappings, or use the Info View maybe (right-click a device's header > "edit info text")
Or use a notepad type M4L device.
i haven't used info view much! this is a perfect tip, not just for this issue either

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Re: Envelope follower mappings

Post by Rivanni » Thu May 14, 2026 9:22 pm

[jur] wrote:
Thu May 14, 2026 5:46 am
It works the other way around: if you click a mapped parameter, the Status bar will tell "this device, in this track" is controlling this parameter. It's not ideal, I know, but that's what we have for the time being.
This only works for macro mappings.
For mappings by modulators, you must right-click the control. You'll then see "Show Modulation Source #", followed by the modulator's name. When you click on it, it jumps to that modulator.
Unfortunately, there is no way to see exactly what a modulator is modulating.

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Re: Envelope follower mappings

Post by [jur] » Mon May 18, 2026 5:24 am

Rivanni wrote:
Thu May 14, 2026 9:22 pm
[jur] wrote:
Thu May 14, 2026 5:46 am
It works the other way around: if you click a mapped parameter, the Status bar will tell "this device, in this track" is controlling this parameter. It's not ideal, I know, but that's what we have for the time being.
This only works for macro mappings.
You meant REMOTE mappings, right?
You're right, it's not working when it's mapped in "mod" mode.
With both mapping method the right-click method is available, though.
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