I've just released Live Amp Modeler, a Max for Live pack for running neural amp captures (NAM and AIDA-X) and cabinet IRs natively in Ableton Live. No external plugins needed, and lower CPU usage.
Get it here: https://nyquistlimited.lemonsqueezy.com/
Demo and walkthrough: https://youtu.be/m2VRggzL93I
Designed as a drop-in replacement for the stock Amp and Cabinet, it consists of two specialized devices, Amp Modeler and Cab Loader. Both are deeply integrated with Live, with convenient browsing, drag & drop, and preset recall functionality.
The pack includes a library of selected captures and IRs covering all the classics, provided by some of the best creators in the amp modeling world: Slammin Captures, Dahman Music, Deathblossom Audio, 2dor, Nick Leonard, Desmond Digital.
In addition to the two M4L devices, I included pre-built effect racks with multiband denoiser, sidechain gate, and multi-IR mixing.
See the User Manual for more info: https://drive.google.com/file/d/161hyJ- ... yVKfqZ0w1/
I've also open-sourced the underlying Max/MSP external: https://github.com/apresta/neural_tilde
I hope you find this useful!
Live Amp Modeler integrates NAM with Ableton Live
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spiritofeden
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spiritofeden
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Re: Live Amp Modeler integrates NAM with Ableton Live
I have updated Live Amp Modeler to support loading the new generation of NAM models, "A2".
All included captures in the pack have also been converted to A2. This is a major improvement in both model accuracy and CPU efficiency compared to first-generation NAM profiles.
Open source external: https://github.com/apresta/neural_tilde
Full pack (M4L devices, racks, curated captures & IRs): https://www.nyquistlimited.com
As always, huge thanks to the creators of the included pro-level amp & cabinet captures:
https://www.dahmanmusic.com/
https://slammincaptures.bigcartel.com/
https://www.facebook.com/deathblossomaudio/
https://ko-fi.com/2dornam
https://www.youtube.com/NickLeonard
https://gindabestari.com/desmond-digital
All included captures in the pack have also been converted to A2. This is a major improvement in both model accuracy and CPU efficiency compared to first-generation NAM profiles.
Open source external: https://github.com/apresta/neural_tilde
Full pack (M4L devices, racks, curated captures & IRs): https://www.nyquistlimited.com
As always, huge thanks to the creators of the included pro-level amp & cabinet captures:
https://www.dahmanmusic.com/
https://slammincaptures.bigcartel.com/
https://www.facebook.com/deathblossomaudio/
https://ko-fi.com/2dornam
https://www.youtube.com/NickLeonard
https://gindabestari.com/desmond-digital
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slow.robot
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Re: Live Amp Modeler integrates NAM with Ableton Live
nice! been thinking about how terrible the stock amp modeling stuff is for actual guitar in Ableton. what is NAM exactly? I mean, I get that it stands for neural amp modeling, but what's different about NAM vs. traditional amp and cab modeling?
definitely going to give this a good look, especially now that I'm going to be collaborating on the go more often.
definitely going to give this a good look, especially now that I'm going to be collaborating on the go more often.
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spiritofeden
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Re: Live Amp Modeler integrates NAM with Ableton Live
Standard amp modeling is done by explicitly simulating the (effects of) the many components of a physical amplifier. Some really good models have been built that way, but there are two potential hurdles:
Depending on who you ask, the main benefits of neural captures are:
One disadvantage of neural captures is that they don't model each specific amp's knobs. Doing that with current technology would require gathering an impractical amount of audio in/out data. So right now you have to make do with generic tone and gain controls. This is why often a capture pack includes tens of captures of the same pack, all at different knob settings. In practice it's not so bad once you get used to this way of working. I might be biased because I mostly play clean, so I get a lot of mileage out of the right capture and dialing in the input gain. But I hear metalheads love the realism of high gain/distorted captures.
Oh and by the way, it's not just guitar and bass amps. Drive pedals and outboard preamps are also pretty popular targets of NAM captures.
One more thing: you'll find two kinds of guitar amp captures on Tone3000. Some are "full rig", meaning they model the amp head and cabinet together. You load one of those into Amp Modeler and you're done. "Amp head" captures require that you also load an impulse response after them (unless you want a DI sound), which is why my pack includes Cab Loader.
- Each new amp you want to model is kind of its own engineering project.
- Even if you approximate each component pretty closely, the ways those components influence one another in real world situations is harder to reproduce.
Depending on who you ask, the main benefits of neural captures are:
- You can get a much more realistic amp-like feel.
- It's much easier to make new high quality models of existing amps (I fall more into this camp).
One disadvantage of neural captures is that they don't model each specific amp's knobs. Doing that with current technology would require gathering an impractical amount of audio in/out data. So right now you have to make do with generic tone and gain controls. This is why often a capture pack includes tens of captures of the same pack, all at different knob settings. In practice it's not so bad once you get used to this way of working. I might be biased because I mostly play clean, so I get a lot of mileage out of the right capture and dialing in the input gain. But I hear metalheads love the realism of high gain/distorted captures.
Oh and by the way, it's not just guitar and bass amps. Drive pedals and outboard preamps are also pretty popular targets of NAM captures.
One more thing: you'll find two kinds of guitar amp captures on Tone3000. Some are "full rig", meaning they model the amp head and cabinet together. You load one of those into Amp Modeler and you're done. "Amp head" captures require that you also load an impulse response after them (unless you want a DI sound), which is why my pack includes Cab Loader.
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slow.robot
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Re: Live Amp Modeler integrates NAM with Ableton Live
excellent explanation—thank you! 