EXPRESS YOURSELF: Whats D best Controller 4 u?

CJ Vega · Post by **CJ Vega** » Fri Aug 19, 2005 11:44 pm

Hello Supster!

Actually the BST3X was a good surprise since the equipment live looks even better than on the pics!

Its about the size of a Virus C synthesizer rack and weights a lot!
Its really heavy witch is great because you get that feeling of "not toy" controller.

The knobs and sliders are perfect. They aren’t to smooth neither to hard!
They "sell quality" as you touch them.

The infrared can control whatever you want it to control.
It sends CCs (among other midi messages) from 0 to 127, so, just name it and you have a kind of D-Beam controller on the fly!

The indicators are for direct cc visualization, so you can swap the lines and know witch CCs they are controlling.

I have mine now for 2 weeks and did not regret a minute!

CJ

BST3X on stage: http://www.waveidea.com/en/support/foru ... .php?t=188

supster · Post by **supster** » Sat Aug 20, 2005 12:37 am

CJ Vega wrote:Hello Supster!

Actually the BST3X was a good surprise since the equipment live looks even better than on the pics!

Its about the size of a Virus C synthesizer rack and weights a lot!
Its really heavy witch is great because you get that feeling of "not toy" controller.

The knobs and sliders are perfect. They aren’t to smooth neither to hard!
They "sell quality" as you touch them.

The infrared can control whatever you want it to control.
It sends CCs (among other midi messages) from 0 to 127, so, just name it and you have a kind of D-Beam controller on the fly!

The indicators are for direct cc visualization, so you can swap the lines and know witch CCs they are controlling.

I have mine now for 2 weeks and did not regret a minute!

CJ

BST3X on stage: http://www.waveidea.com/en/support/foru ... .php?t=188

hey thanks for the reply, look like a quality piece of gear

that infrared control and the joystick are really unique bonuses

so controlling a filter sweep on the master out freq/resonance simultaneously could be done by waving your hand in the air over the infrared sensor?

Paul Nolan · Post by **Paul Nolan** » Sun Aug 21, 2005 12:09 am

ive had my faderfox for a few days now

wow

what a simple yet devastatingly effectiv piece of kit

couldnt be happier with it, and its going to make a world of difference to y workflow and how i also think about things dj wise

CJ Vega · Post by **CJ Vega** » Sat Oct 01, 2005 3:07 am

Dont dislike the Fader Fox, but an updated version of it would convince me, specialy with USB!!

Its quite stupid to have MIDI ports. Nowadays any controller must be portable and practicle. With the Fader Fox units... they are small, but you still need a MIDI interface to connect it to the computer...silly!

Still convinced and surrended to the WaveIdea Bitstream 3X.

Best afordable piece of gear!

Check it out:
www.waveidea.com

CJ Vega

Krugger · Post by **Krugger** » Sat Oct 01, 2005 12:39 pm

Bought a 3X very recently and was worth every penny

I am considering adding the Faderfox LX1 to it to get that 8x8 button matrix for clips launch etc.

CJ Vega: it might need MIDI connection, but as you're using the 3X, you can simply plug it into the 3X and control it from Ableton. It works with batteries so power is not a problem.
Altogether you keep the flexy setup of not needing external power for your controllers.

Kr.

squareve · Post by **squareve** » Sat Oct 01, 2005 4:17 pm

honestly, i've got a trigger finger, an oxygen 8, and that new alesis photon x25 with the wicked XYZ dome, but the controller i use most for like is a Korg MS2000 and a Kaos Pad. The MS has just tons of knobs to assign, and it's layed out like a real synth so thats always a plus. And the Kaos pad is great for sending X & Y plane info to Ping Pong Delay and the Auto Filter when you don't feel like using the unit for what it does.

TheAnimal · Post by **TheAnimal** » Sun Oct 02, 2005 6:09 pm

Mackie Control Universal (MCU). I just love it!

D K · Post by **D K** » Mon Oct 03, 2005 3:10 am

another ozonic user here.
i still don't have the ideal controller yet,
i also have a bcr2000, i'd ideally like a cross between these two.
settings update/led rings/rotary knobs on the bcr controls is ideal.
but firewire audio/busspower on the ozonic is ultimately simple, and makes set-up very easy.
i use it to control 2 laptops, 1 for Ableton and 1 for video. 1 frewire and 1 midi to usb cable. bass plugs right into the ozonic for clean playthrough/zero-latency blend and sent to output mix, also gets routed through computer for processing, using 1 cable.
the sustain and expression pedals are great for various midi uses.
the only complaint i have about the ozonic is the latency takes some tweaking to get decent, but it can be done.
cheers
d

CJ Vega · Post by **CJ Vega** » Tue Oct 11, 2005 1:55 am

Another producer has joined my team!!

ochem Paap [ Speedy j ] :
Website : www.speedyj.com

"I have been using the 3x for a month now and it blows me away. this is by far the most advanced and flexible controller i have ever used, it is packed with features. still, it's very easy to edit the assignments. i love the customizable curves and the midi arpeggiator.
The fact that it now powers and operates via usb is a great plus too. it has quickly become an essential piece in both my studio setup and live setup"

http://www.waveidea.com/en/products/bit ... edback.php

CJ Vega[/img]

dodgyedgy · Post by **dodgyedgy** » Tue Oct 18, 2005 9:05 am

Using the o1x...
it can be a bit cumbersome if you dont know what you are doing, but when it gets going.. what a unit.

plus the rest of it,,

however, that bitstream thingy looks great.. i may invest in this.

hambone1 · Post by **hambone1** » Tue Oct 18, 2005 9:22 am

I decided to try and use my ancient Yamaha 01V as a MIDI controller. I should've tried it sooner!

4 banks of 15 moving faders and 4 banks of 28 buttons were sitting in the corner of my studio for months unused!

Still looking for a way to get 8 tracks of digital audio to the Yamaha without using a PCI card or mLAN. Looks like the M-Audio Firewire 1814 may be the way go to.

henry ford · Post by **henry ford** » Tue Oct 18, 2005 1:17 pm

in the studio i use - two faderfox lv1's and an lx1 to control live, a kenton control freak studio and a kenton control freak live to control all other instruments/effects - and a cme uf5 midi keyboard.

to perform i would use the two lv1s to control live , the kentons and the lx1 for instruments and effects. i cant wait to buy max/msp - thats when things will really become hot using the lx1 , the kentons and i should probably pick up a midi patchbay.

i've only just picked up the kenton controllers , they are solid as fruck and are seriously custimisable. I havent explored these possibilities yet folks. so far im just using them as faders and dials , but theres alot you can do with them. you should really check their website , as im too midi-stupid to explain things yet. you can use them as an instrument in their own right. there are 16 buttons over the 16 faders on the studio edition, one thing you can do with this is use the buttons as a midi note , and use the fader below it to set velocity. theres a screen on the controller where you can see exactly where the fader is set to (0 - 127). other things im aware of- you can have the action of one fader/knob influenced by the position of another , and so on. i havent opened the manual yet....heh

oh , and you people should check out the cycling 74 website , and go to the videos of artists using maxmsp page , theres a video about controllers there and the guy shows you a few different controllers you can relatively easily make to use with maxmsp , and the video finishes with a demo of lemur. ......and this is what sold it for me , he had set up a four track , 16 step sequencer. with an indicating bar at the top showing where in the bar the sequencer was at. it was frigging sweet , seeing as he would activate a step and the button lights up.......up untill i saw this , i was looking for a midi controller for this kind of control....all i could find was the doepler schaltwerk (spelling) , which is 3/4 the price of a lemur and not in production at the moment.

i think if i get a lemur , i will have all the controllers i will need for a decade to come

oh , and as for the faderfox being midi only , well all you need is an edirol um-1x to make it a usb controller.

plus matthias of faderfox company is cool , and the controllers are great...i truely think these will go up in value after a decade

hambone1 · Post by **hambone1** » Tue Oct 18, 2005 1:25 pm

Check out the new Jazzmutant website. In my opinion, MIDI controllers don't get much better than that.

I know the Lemur's not cheap, but once you start the complication and expense of using one of these controllers, two of those controllers, MIDI patchbay, cables, PSUs, etc it starts to look even sweeter. Especially as it's basically infinitely configurable, and as the configuation is software based, new knobs/buttons/etc are instantly available.

Saving my pennies...

Nixon · Post by **Nixon** » Tue Oct 18, 2005 1:52 pm

Off course the possibilities of the Lemur are potentially limitless, centainly when looking from the bcr etc perspective...

, but I still have some doubts: It might be difficult to play the lemur like an instrument, I mean touch screen isn't exactly the jamming surface...

henry ford · Post by **henry ford** » Tue Oct 18, 2005 4:03 pm

difficult to play the lemur ?
not as far as I can tell from the videos i've seen of it in action...seems ultra responsive to me. not to mention its so ultra versatile...you make it what you want it to be.

have a look at this ,
http://www.jazzmutant.com/workshop_olds ... id=stepseq

just hook this muther up to reaktor/max/whatever...and well....you'll be jamming.