{OT} Why is America so obsessed with Iraq?
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[quote="robtronik"][quote="D K"]actually, rob, if you bothered to read you'd understand 911 was a response to our bombing of palestine.
Really? which version of Al Q.'s stance against the west are your deriving this from?
A:osama bin laden said it himself plain and simple
I've got a better way to put it: Name the reasons why U.S. interests were attacked in the 90's by Al Q. See if those match up to the 9/11 or if this is just one of many reasons that ebb and flow depending on the need to justlfy the attacks?
A:well, as you said it sure had nothing to do with business of course
I think you will find that as you read into the justifications on the war against the west (as this is what it is), you will see that there are usually flavors of the month for why they justify what they do.
A: sounds like the current bush administration all right
let me put it to you this way? If you think we pulled out of the middle east entirely their war would stop?
A:of course not, we invested in instability in the middle east for years
previous to this. there's always religion, too.
That's what people said about Hitler too you realize. And before you you think "oh lord, the Hitler comarison - its gone over the deep end", I'd ask you - who do you think we are fighting against?
A: the bush regime?!!who you fighting?
Appeasement is seen as weakness. Weakness in adversary is an invitation for more attacks. Don't fall into that trap.
A:you sad paranoid fuck, go join the army. you don't even realize that your way of thinking is what makes people strap bombs to themselves and murder.
go on justifying war, or better yet join your beloved army and pick up a gun and find out what it's really about. you disgust me. but i forgive you.
Really? which version of Al Q.'s stance against the west are your deriving this from?
A:osama bin laden said it himself plain and simple
I've got a better way to put it: Name the reasons why U.S. interests were attacked in the 90's by Al Q. See if those match up to the 9/11 or if this is just one of many reasons that ebb and flow depending on the need to justlfy the attacks?
A:well, as you said it sure had nothing to do with business of course
I think you will find that as you read into the justifications on the war against the west (as this is what it is), you will see that there are usually flavors of the month for why they justify what they do.
A: sounds like the current bush administration all right
let me put it to you this way? If you think we pulled out of the middle east entirely their war would stop?
A:of course not, we invested in instability in the middle east for years
previous to this. there's always religion, too.
That's what people said about Hitler too you realize. And before you you think "oh lord, the Hitler comarison - its gone over the deep end", I'd ask you - who do you think we are fighting against?
A: the bush regime?!!who you fighting?
Appeasement is seen as weakness. Weakness in adversary is an invitation for more attacks. Don't fall into that trap.
A:you sad paranoid fuck, go join the army. you don't even realize that your way of thinking is what makes people strap bombs to themselves and murder.
go on justifying war, or better yet join your beloved army and pick up a gun and find out what it's really about. you disgust me. but i forgive you.
perhaps I will just illustrate the point that made me post the other piss take thread......I didnt want to bump this thread but I guess i'm now in the mood for a rant.
This thread title actually in itself I found completely bewildering.
Bizarre that any one could in any kind of seriousness ask why One country would be obsessed with a sovereign nation which they (and subsequently numerous others) invaded on a false premise. Fuck me that's like beating somebody to a bloody pulp and turning them into a quadreplegic and then saying "oh are you still going on about that?!" whenever it get's mentioned.
The sheer loss of life is nothing short of an atrocity and now so far beyond any of the damage Saddam has ever done or could have even contemplated doing (which all opponents knew would be the case) that it should be very much in the forefront of everybody's minds. Not to mention cultural damage that would have been done to what may be some of the oldest existing relics of ancient civilisations on this planet.
I was badly, BADLY opposed to it from the start and even I admit I no longer pay attention to the car bombings in a market place that kill a hundred that happen daily, because it is now too often to comprehend the sheer horror experienced by all those poor people whos reality that now is.
Especially when despite Saddam and his evils in the past, it is a common testimony of Iraqis that they could walk with their families down the street at 1am and feel and be safe.
It was huge news when 39 people died in london - Imagine if that was EVERY DAY which it practically is in Baghdad! Tony Blair was responsible for that bombing anyway, he will go down in history as the man who could have perhaps prevented the war but didn't.
There is not now, nor was there ever any justification for putting all these poor people through this - mothers losing their children and husbands for no reason, Whole families and communities completely destroyed and their whole country in a state of anarchy, all because of a corrupt and greedy, evil administration that even illegally seized power in their own land.
If I lost my child in such a way I would either want to kill those responsible or I'd lose the will to live. And hundreds of thousands have now had to endure such a fate.
It makes me so sick to my soul that it's just too apalling to even think about, and for anyone to seriously still question for any single reason why America would be devoting media attention to this while people are still dying in their hundreds every week is just...bizarre.
This thread title actually in itself I found completely bewildering.
Bizarre that any one could in any kind of seriousness ask why One country would be obsessed with a sovereign nation which they (and subsequently numerous others) invaded on a false premise. Fuck me that's like beating somebody to a bloody pulp and turning them into a quadreplegic and then saying "oh are you still going on about that?!" whenever it get's mentioned.
The sheer loss of life is nothing short of an atrocity and now so far beyond any of the damage Saddam has ever done or could have even contemplated doing (which all opponents knew would be the case) that it should be very much in the forefront of everybody's minds. Not to mention cultural damage that would have been done to what may be some of the oldest existing relics of ancient civilisations on this planet.
I was badly, BADLY opposed to it from the start and even I admit I no longer pay attention to the car bombings in a market place that kill a hundred that happen daily, because it is now too often to comprehend the sheer horror experienced by all those poor people whos reality that now is.
Especially when despite Saddam and his evils in the past, it is a common testimony of Iraqis that they could walk with their families down the street at 1am and feel and be safe.
It was huge news when 39 people died in london - Imagine if that was EVERY DAY which it practically is in Baghdad! Tony Blair was responsible for that bombing anyway, he will go down in history as the man who could have perhaps prevented the war but didn't.
There is not now, nor was there ever any justification for putting all these poor people through this - mothers losing their children and husbands for no reason, Whole families and communities completely destroyed and their whole country in a state of anarchy, all because of a corrupt and greedy, evil administration that even illegally seized power in their own land.
If I lost my child in such a way I would either want to kill those responsible or I'd lose the will to live. And hundreds of thousands have now had to endure such a fate.
It makes me so sick to my soul that it's just too apalling to even think about, and for anyone to seriously still question for any single reason why America would be devoting media attention to this while people are still dying in their hundreds every week is just...bizarre.
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