Is there any way to trigger two clips with one click?

Jonny · Post by **Jonny** » Sun Oct 23, 2005 10:37 pm

I often use two instances of Battery in Live simultaneously for my drums (usually one for the skins and another for the cymbals, fx, etc.) Is there any way to link two midi clips (or audio clips for that matter) together so that while playing and recording I would only have to click one clip to trigger both without affecting the other clips that are playing?
Thanks
Jonny

martin808 · Post by **martin808** » Sun Oct 23, 2005 11:01 pm

if you select the 2 clips and then hit return it will fire both clips and leave the rest running.

is that what you mean?

Jonny · Post by **Jonny** » Sun Oct 23, 2005 11:14 pm

Yes that does work, but it's still a little cumbersome for me. I think maybe what I should have asked is this... Is there a way to permanently link two tracks to just one set of controls? For example I mentioned that I often use two instances of battery for my drums so if I wanted to fade out the volume on both at the same time (on the fly), is there a way to link the two tracks so that reducing the volume on one would affect the other one - and in the same manner, triggering one would trigger the other?
Thanks,
Jonathan

Clearscreen · Post by **Clearscreen** » Mon Oct 24, 2005 12:02 am

use the same technique described here, except for triggers etc.

http://www.ableton.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=28373

Atomikat · Post by **Atomikat** » Mon Oct 24, 2005 12:27 am

Send the signal of the two tracks to an AUX (send) and this to the master, this way you can use the fader of the send to handle the volume of both tracks.

djsynchro · Post by **djsynchro** » Mon Oct 24, 2005 10:51 am

Send the two outputs instead of to the master to a new audio channel, (I-O menu) now you have created a SUBGROUP, everything that you route to this channel can now be faded out in one go.

Read the section in the manual about audio routing, it is very flexible in Live and very handy.

Hope that helps.

DeadlyKungFu · Post by **DeadlyKungFu** » Mon Oct 24, 2005 4:57 pm

Bounce the two to one audio clip. There comes a time when you have to let go of the old format and move on, if the two clips really belong together, put them together, disable the midi clips and just use the midi clips to make new variations. This saves CPU loading and probably gets you closer to finishing the track, no more messing around with these two clips, call them done, bounce to audio and move on.

Nice tips from the other users.

Machinate · Post by **Machinate** » Mon Oct 24, 2005 5:26 pm

uhm put them both in the same scene and launch it?

martin808 · Post by **martin808** » Mon Oct 24, 2005 5:33 pm

Machinate wrote:uhm put them both in the same scene and launch it?

that stops the clips that were playing though.

Machinate · Post by **Machinate** » Mon Oct 24, 2005 5:35 pm

have you fully explored the ctrl/cmd+e function on empty clips?

martin808 · Post by **martin808** » Mon Oct 24, 2005 5:37 pm

Machinate wrote:ctrl/cmd+e

thats where its at.

borg · Post by **borg** » Mon Oct 24, 2005 6:54 pm

for the hits on both channels, you could also choose 'midi from x' for the y track. i don't know battery, but i suppose drumsound a on X is triggered the same way as drumsound a on Y, the way a C1 on a synth will be the same for 'all'. of course, you'd still have to route the two tracks to a return or audio track, as said above.

Jonny · Post by **Jonny** » Mon Oct 24, 2005 7:54 pm

Whoa, Whoa, Whoa! Ctrl+E, where you been all my life? Oh...you've been right there...under my nose the whole time...this is embarassing. Seriously, I don't know how I made it this far without noticing the "remove stop button" command. This is going to change everything! That's definitely the best option as far as launching multiple clips on a single click.

This has got me thinking, what else don't I know how to do in Live?

"....no more messing around with these two clips, call them done, bounce to audio and move on." - DeadlyKungFu

One of the things I love about using midi is the ability to tweak constantly, but you're right, there is a point when that is no longer progressive - great advice.

Thanks for everyone's help,
Jonathan

amo · Post by **amo** » Mon Oct 24, 2005 7:57 pm

Jonny wrote:Whoa, Whoa, Whoa! Ctrl+E, where you been all my life? Oh...you've been right there...under my nose the whole time...this is embarassing. Seriously, I don't know how I made it this far without noticing the "remove stop button" command. This is going to change everything! That's definitely the best option as far as launching multiple clips on a single click.

This has got me thinking, what else don't I know how to do in Live?

"....no more messing around with these two clips, call them done, bounce to audio and move on." - DeadlyKungFu

One of the things I love about using midi is the ability to tweak constantly, but you're right, there is a point when that is no longer progressive - great advice.

Thanks for everyone's help,
Jonathan

I discovered it quite late too, with an Ableton demo song.. All of a sudden, I was like: "but, there's no stop button here, how come ?", and my Live life got better. How cool !