audio keeps cutting out!!

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mudbone
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audio keeps cutting out!!

Post by mudbone » Sat Nov 05, 2005 8:53 pm

Had this problem out LIVE last weekend & couldn't perfrom my set because of it:

I load up my set, it plays fine until i move the cursor, or adjust any parameters, like the CPU is overloading.

The obvious answer would be there's too much going on & to bounce some stuff down, but the thing is, this overload doesn't register on LIVE's built in CPU meter, or on the Windows task manager & it's on sets that have previously played fine.

There are no programmes running in the background, like anti-virsues, because i don't connect to the net with my laptop. It's an Acer 1350 with 2.2 GHZ AMD processor and 768 MB RAM & this happens on different soundcards.

any suggestions? thanks!

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Post by Machinesworking » Sat Nov 05, 2005 10:50 pm

I was about to post this in regards to soft synths, but yeah it happens if i move a MIDI assigned knob or slider as well.

I'm on a 1.5ghz powerbook using an X-Station for MIDI/audio, so it seems the problem is cross platform. :?

Anybody have any solution to this? is it 5.02 that's the culprit? :?

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Post by kineticUk » Sun Nov 06, 2005 1:43 am

Same here
I noticed it when controlling live VSTs with CC from my controller.
MacBook MacOS Live 9.7.1 Max for Live Push Logic

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Post by Machinesworking » Sun Nov 06, 2005 5:57 am

OK a question for you guys, what are your settings?

I'm using USB for audio as well as MIDI, (X-Station) what are you guys using?

Live 5.02

Buffer setting of 128 for plug ins, 252 for audio.


I'm going to try different buffer settings, maybe that will help?

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Post by mudbone » Sun Nov 06, 2005 3:28 pm

I'll try he buffer settings, but for some reason when i've pulled up the task manager, i can see ableton is jumping from 10% to 50%+ randomly, even when there is nothing going on!! No audio playing, so what does it need that much CPU to do? Anyone know how i can make it more efficient?

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Post by Machinesworking » Sun Nov 06, 2005 5:23 pm

mudbone wrote:I'll try he buffer settings, but for some reason when i've pulled up the task manager, i can see ableton is jumping from 10% to 50%+ randomly, even when there is nothing going on!! No audio playing, so what does it need that much CPU to do? Anyone know how i can make it more efficient?
Hey mudbone, what are you using for a soundcard? what are your buffer settings right now?

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Post by mudbone » Sun Nov 06, 2005 5:30 pm

i'm using an echo indigo IO right now, but was having the same problem with an Edirol UA25. i'll try it with my laptop's native soundcard, but i don;'t think that's the problem.

Also, i've tried increasing ht buffer size, but this doesn't seem to be helping :?

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Post by Machinesworking » Sun Nov 06, 2005 7:38 pm

That's too bad, I was hoping it was a USB audio issue... Echo is PCMCIA right? so...

I'm going to try my firewire 828 later today, I'll let you know if it helps.

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Post by Machinesworking » Mon Nov 07, 2005 3:21 am

What I tried today that seems to have worked is to roll back to Live 5.0.1. At practice today there were no noticeable dropouts, I can't say it's all 5.0.1, but the buffer setting change didn't seem to help etc.. For now, that's what I suggest, my songs I saved in 5.0.2 opened up just fine in 5.0.1, so....
Makes sense, because this problem wasn't really anything to cry about for me before. Maybe I had it happen once or twice, and not much has changed in the last month with my setup except 5.0.2.........

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Post by mudbone » Mon Nov 07, 2005 11:24 am

not a bad idea...i might try reverting back, see if that helps, but i was also having this problem with Live 4, so doubt it will.

Might format my laptop, but i've only had it a year & it was new then...think it could be the hard drive? Logic is performing worse than it should be, but nothing as bad as my Ableton issues.

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Post by mudbone » Mon Nov 07, 2005 1:32 pm

just checked my HD model, it's pretty slow at 4200RPM..could this be the problem?

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Post by Machinesworking » Mon Nov 07, 2005 4:09 pm

mudbone wrote:Might format my laptop, but i've only had it a year & it was new then...think it could be the hard drive? Logic is performing worse than it should be, but nothing as bad as my Ableton issues.
My HD is a 7200rpm model, so it's not hard drive. Ableton support suggested setting my plug in buffer to "As Audio Buffer", try that. I have to run off to work, but when I come back I'll test this out in 5.0.2 and 5.0.1.

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