Impulse vs Battery

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Post by linzatti » Sat Nov 05, 2005 1:45 pm

Lo-Fi Massahkah wrote:
Yeah, a bit expensive but well worth the cash! I actually aplied for work at electron the other day
Cool! Good luck...

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Re: Impulse vs Battery

Post by MarkH » Sat Nov 05, 2005 5:27 pm

Battery is powerful, no doubt. I find Impulse to be more productive though. For me, less is more. Instead of buying Battery I spent the money on the Synthetic Drum I and II. Now I have a HUGE assortment of kits made up of WAV files I can drag and drop to Impulse, sorted by kit name, and with mp3 preivews of each kit.

As for dynamics, my default Ableton song route some of Impulse's slots to their own audio track when I add compression and eq.

While I think Battery is great, I would only get it if I was using an app that didn't have a good percussion instrument like Cubase or Digital Performer. Otherwise Impulse is great!
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Re: Impulse vs Battery

Post by linzatti » Sat Nov 05, 2005 9:01 pm

MarkH wrote:Battery is powerful, no doubt. I find Impulse to be more productive though. For me, less is more. Instead of buying Battery I spent the money on the Synthetic Drum I and II. Now I have a HUGE assortment of kits made up of WAV files I can drag and drop to Impulse, sorted by kit name, and with mp3 preivews of each kit.

As for dynamics, my default Ableton song route some of Impulse's slots to their own audio track when I add compression and eq.

While I think Battery is great, I would only get it if I was using an app that didn't have a good percussion instrument like Cubase or Digital Performer. Otherwise Impulse is great!
I totally agree, less is more. I often find myself tweaking and turning way too much, tweak and turn you can do when everythings arranged :wink: ... I almost always look for new and cool synths instead of using the ones I have and start doiung things! Haha, damn Internet age!!! :wink:

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Post by supster » Sat Nov 05, 2005 9:58 pm

rolfski wrote:Try Guru, it will beat both impulse and battery. If you're into MPC style music making you really shouldn't miss out on this one

yeah, the answer for me was niether:

GURU does what both of them do best, better and then some.

impulse is nice and simple but i could never get a nice, clean hard sound out of it for some reason.

battery has a great sound but ends up having too hi CPU usage and is far too complex to set things up and get working

guru is as simple or complex as you want to make it, much faster to work with, more flexible, faster auditioning, faster tweaking, sound quality as good as battery if not better imo

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Post by linzatti » Sun Nov 06, 2005 4:35 pm

I´ve looked at Guru since I heard about for the first time. It looks nice a bit to nice maybe. No you have to convince me to try Guru! Is it as good as eveyone says? I think it looks a bit "sandbox-childish" that is why I haven´t tried it yet. Doesn´t mean that it´s bad or anything.. :oops:

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Post by supster » Sun Nov 06, 2005 4:47 pm

linzatti wrote:Is it as good as eveyone says? I think it looks a bit "sandbox-childish" that is why I haven´t tried it yet.
yes it is, and no it definitely is not a toy :)

i worked hard at with both impulse first, then battery: learning them, configuring them, setting them up, trying different techniques ...

like i said - for me - guru blows them both away in just about every aspect.

best way to find out whether it works for you is to try the demo, download the manual and watch the excellent movies available on the site

the movies show you how to use most of the major features. once i plugged it into Live and really worked with it for a while i was sold.
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Post by linzatti » Sun Nov 06, 2005 9:17 pm

supster wrote:
linzatti wrote:Is it as good as eveyone says? I think it looks a bit "sandbox-childish" that is why I haven´t tried it yet.
yes it is, and no it definitely is not a toy :)

i worked hard at with both impulse first, then battery: learning them, configuring them, setting them up, trying different techniques ...

like i said - for me - guru blows them both away in just about every aspect.

best way to find out whether it works for you is to try the demo, download the manual and watch the excellent movies available on the site

the movies show you how to use most of the major features. once i plugged it into Live and really worked with it for a while i was sold.
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I will have a try at it ASAP! :D

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Post by nebulae » Mon Nov 07, 2005 1:26 am

Not sure if this has been mentioned, but I've played with Battery 2 on a friend's PC, and the CPU usage can easily be tamed by reducing the number of outputs. Usually, you can get by with just a couple of stereo outputs, in which case Battery 2 has about the same CPU usage as Battery 1. If you go hog wild and add compressors and filters to each pad, then of course, all bets are off.

I've also played around with Guru, and I've found the CPU usage to be higher than Battery 2. And on the PC side, I felt that Guru had some nice features, but overall, was not really anything major when you can get FL Studio for half ts price. Just a glorified beat box.

*Anticipating Guru-loving flamers any second*

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Post by roby » Mon Nov 07, 2005 3:22 am

you can do some very basic pitchshift/timestretch with Impulse...i don't think Battery can do this yet...guru has some nice options though...

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Post by supster » Mon Nov 07, 2005 12:19 pm

nebulae wrote: was not really anything major when you can get FL Studio for half ts price. Just a glorified beat box.

*Anticipating Guru-loving flamers any second*

no, its perfectly fine if you believe that, why should we care if you like working twice as hard to get half the results :)

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Post by forge » Mon Nov 07, 2005 1:16 pm

cool...to us Komplete 2 users who had things like battery thrown in with the package I know I'm not using anything like the potential of the gear I have - You've just inspired me to dig it out again and have a play!


I know Battery is wicked, I just seem to inhabit lala live land most of the time and forget to try other things any more....

I'm barely using any synths but operator these days, but that probably says more about operator...

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Post by forge » Mon Nov 07, 2005 1:28 pm

actually I just loaded a track with Microtonic in it and remembered why I havent tried Battery in ages

guess it depends what you're doing and I've been alot more electro in my tastes of late..

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