LOST ASD FILES ahhhhhhh....

Kaidenjohn · Post by **Kaidenjohn** » Wed Nov 02, 2005 8:31 am

hEY,

What's up guys? I have a quick question. It seems my asd files do not respond. They are in my folder along with my original audio files but when I pull them up in live there are no warp markers. It seems that only a few come up as before. I don't understand, it shows in the browser window of live that they are warped but they just don't seem to be loading as in the past. I have used them prior and everything works great but just the other day I defraged my hard disk and now they don't work. Weird...that's alot of work gone. Is there some way I can make live read the asd files, they are there but just not working? Thanks...

Gorgoran · Post by **Gorgoran** » Thu Nov 03, 2005 8:17 pm

Same with me... I worked on the tracks for djing in my desktop, then installed Live 5.0.2 in the laptop, transfered all the tracks (mp3 files) with the .asd files t othe laptop. In Live´s Browser, the files appear as if they were analyzed, but when I load in live, it spend all that time analyzing the file, and nothing that was saved, wrp markers and so, will appear. What is wrong?????

zizi · Post by **zizi** » Sat Nov 05, 2005 12:34 am

I have the same prob with mp3's. Wav files load and warp just fine.

I think it has something to do with the decompiled cache. I looked at it and it was empty, except for the files I tried now.

But why doesn't live use my old asd-file after decompiling the mp3 again?

(can this also be winter-time related?)

Kaidenjohn · Post by **Kaidenjohn** » Mon Nov 07, 2005 10:45 am

Does anyone know how to fix this problem....?

Please Reply...

xzusa8ky · Post by **xzusa8ky** » Mon Nov 07, 2005 2:25 pm

Hi!

I can't understand people Dj'ing with Mp3 format? First of all Mp3 sounds different from the original file, no matter what bitrate you use! Use only Wave or aiff files! I guess if you are a pro dj you wish to get all out of a good produced track, or am I wrong? Mp3 is like in the old days: Crome Tape! Nothing more or less.......

Regards

djreagen · Post by **djreagen** » Wed Nov 09, 2005 11:03 pm

STILL, this is a bug!!! I have the same problem with warping mp3s, everything is saved fine but if i MOVE the files INCLUDING the ads files, then half of the tracks loses their warp points! Its really annoying, and i don't know how to fix it!

sweetjesus · Post by **sweetjesus** » Tue Nov 15, 2005 3:00 am

i dont have live handy right now, and this may be a stab in the dark, but could the ASD files be required to sit in the same folder as the "decoded" mp3's as opposed to the actual mp3's themselves....

Johnisfaster · Post by **Johnisfaster** » Tue Nov 15, 2005 5:08 am

I keep hearing people talk about mp3's not sounding good. it doesn't make any sense to me. 500,000,000 people have downloaded music world wide and they can't all be wrong about mp3's. if mp3's sound so bad then Ipods wouldn't be the huge smash hit that they are. and live.... nobody in the world is gonna know if it's an mp3, cd, wav, aiff or anything else unless they see you doing it.

icedsushi · Post by **icedsushi** » Tue Nov 15, 2005 2:59 pm

Exactly, you are right...mp3's ARE great for ipods. And you will probably not notice the difference with apple earbuds or an average home stereo.

But they're not as great to play on a nice club system. You can also tell the difference on monitors in the studio. It's not a huge difference, but the difference is audibly there the highs are brittle and the stereo imaging and depth is flattened more and more the further you go down in bit rate. Then how about the sound when you warp an mp3? People don't warp mp3's on their ipods.

Just because millions of average consumers use and find it "acceptable" (especially when they're downloaded for free

) doesn't mean it's an ideal format for DJing or as a studio tool too. Otherwise, why would anyone bother to produce in 24 bit, above CD quality when they could save space use an mp3.

There are average listeners who can tell the difference on a nice system. But, first of all, people in a club aren't going to come up to you and tell you the sound isn't the greatest inbetween the next round of mojitos. And second of all, even if they did, they wouldn't know the technical reason anyway. They don't know or care if it's the mp3, speaker system, EQ, room acoustics, etc. They only remember if it sounds awesome or "just OK".

Kaidenjohn · Post by **Kaidenjohn** » Fri Nov 18, 2005 1:58 am

Please guys I did not start this thread for mp3 vs. wav sound quality fight. Can we stay on the topic...

quandry · Post by **quandry** » Fri Nov 18, 2005 3:39 am

Kaidenjohn wrote:Please guys I did not start this thread for mp3 vs. wav sound quality fight. Can we stay on the topic...

sweetjesus seems to be on track--Live decodes the mp3s to .wav of .aiff in your cache, could it be that making sure to properly keep (and maybe move from cache into you file/set folder) the decoded .wav file will make the warp markers stay intact. Worth a quick test--open a set, add two mp3s, warp each a bit. Find the .wav file for one in the decoding cache folder and move it into your folder for your set. close live, reopen, drag in the wav file you dragged into the set folder and drag in the other mp3 that you warped--dose either have warp markers intact, hopefully the wav you dragged??

Ryan

Kaidenjohn · Post by **Kaidenjohn** » Fri Nov 18, 2005 4:07 am

Were is the Cache...I don't quite understand. Do you mean Ableton is converting my Mp3's to wav and storing them some were else. This is weird because it works for some files and not for others..

Kaidenjohn · Post by **Kaidenjohn** » Sat Nov 19, 2005 6:43 pm

just incase anyone wanted to know I figured it out....
It seems that the Mp3's I was converting were making a back up WAV file in the CACHE folder. Well this folder was only set to hold 500mb and that is not even close to enough space. Anyhow all you need to do is make this folder bigger or just don't warp mp3's. If you warp WAV files the CACHE folder is not used so this will not be a problem. Take care...peace...

leandro · Post by **leandro** » Sat Nov 19, 2005 7:03 pm

just incase anyone wanted to know I figured it out....
It seems that the Mp3's I was converting were making a back up WAV file in the CACHE folder. Well this folder was only set to hold 500mb and that is not even close to enough space. Anyhow all you need to do is make this folder bigger or just don't warp mp3's. If you warp WAV files the CACHE folder is not used so this will not be a problem. Take care...peace...

i think u missundertood that... those 500 mb are the minimun free space that will be left in you hard disk... not the maximum space use by the chache...
the maximum cache size can be setted up below that... and by defoult its unlimited (well, only limited by the minimum free space in your HD of 500 mb)

Spaiz · Post by **Spaiz** » Sat Nov 19, 2005 7:52 pm

Kaidenjohn wrote:just incase anyone wanted to know I figured it out....
It seems that the Mp3's I was converting were making a back up WAV file in the CACHE folder. Well this folder was only set to hold 500mb and that is not even close to enough space. Anyhow all you need to do is make this folder bigger or just don't warp mp3's. If you warp WAV files the CACHE folder is not used so this will not be a problem. Take care...peace...

no no no, problem isnot in the cache! it's something else, connected to mp3 mechanisms...ABLETON!!! DO SOMETHING WITH THIS IMPORTANT PROBLEM!!!