The Trigger Finger (PGM ? MSB ? LSB ? CC? )

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Jonny Pez
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The Trigger Finger (PGM ? MSB ? LSB ? CC? )

Post by Jonny Pez » Fri Nov 18, 2005 7:44 pm

Hey guys.. I just got M-Audio's Trigger Finger for my now outdated Live 3 .... I'm very excited, but I'm also very MIDI dumb :( I understand how I can change the PGM, MSB, LSB, and CC and Note of each pad.. but what do these things mean/do? I can't seem to find info on them anywhere?

Also .. Does anyone have any mapping advice for the Trigger Finger on Live 3 (remember, that's the version without instruments embedded in Live)?

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Post by Lo-Fi Massahkah » Fri Nov 18, 2005 7:53 pm

Hi,

Download the Enigma editor from M-Audio. It makes programming a piece of cake!

Since you can't play any instruments in Live 3 - I'd use the pressure sensitivity of the TF to controll FX parameters and amounts. Maybe trig clips with velocity. But you really wanna use the TF for playing Impulse or some other drum sampler/synth. Time to upgrade?

Cheers,
Mikael

Jonny Pez
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Thanks,but

Post by Jonny Pez » Fri Nov 18, 2005 8:11 pm

Thanks for the reply, I have Enigma and I agree it is easy to change the different parameters of each clip (PGM, MSB, LSB, CC, NOTE)... but I'm still confused as to what these parameters do?

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Post by Lo-Fi Massahkah » Fri Nov 18, 2005 8:16 pm

Hi,

PGM is program change (I think) for changing patches/bank of your synth. CC=controller change for changing parameters in a synth or VST (eg. Cutoff value of a filter). NOTE=note! :wink: For playing an instrument or triggering clips in Live. MSB? LSB? Not sure - never used them! Find a site that focuses on the basics of MIDI, I'm sure that'll set things straight.

Cheers,
Mikael

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Post by Jonny Pez » Fri Nov 18, 2005 8:35 pm

ok.. so if the midi note and the pressure signals are seperate could I use 1 pad to trigger a clip in live, and also use the same pad's pressure to adjust the amount of an effect or volume , or panning?

How can i map the different parameters of 1 pad in Live (note to trigger clip, and pressure to effect amount)?

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Post by Lo-Fi Massahkah » Fri Nov 18, 2005 8:59 pm

Allright... :D

Now you'll have to browse your manuals!

Cheers,
Mikael

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Post by abstractls » Sun Nov 20, 2005 12:18 am

forgive me for not remembering the actual meaning of the abreviations, but what it means is say you have a soft synth paramater that only has 10 levels of change. But a MIDI knob will sweep from 0 to 127, giving you 128 levels of change. MSB allow you to set the high and low value of teh knob so you could set it for 0-9 for 10 levels of change. Otherwise what happens is when you turn the knob with 128 levels, than it will only affect it in the first turns of the knob, the rest of teh knob will do nothing. Allows you to fine tune the knob for broader use.

I probably overexplained it, but that is what it does.

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Post by Thurcke » Wed Nov 23, 2005 12:09 am

LSB = Least Significant Byte
MSB = Most Significant Byte
Wich is actualy not treu since the binair information is in only 7 bits instead of the 8 bits that make up a byte. The first bit send, is a status bit.

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Post by iomega » Sun Jun 04, 2006 3:53 am

thnx for explaining that.. the manually tried, but I just didnt get it

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