[Tip] Looping with Mackie Control emulation!
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It's nice, isn't it? But I don't use it a lot. It's much easier to turn on my MCU and see the codes sent in a midi monitor app. I'm using MidiPipe for monitoring (the pipe consisting of a "Midi In" and "AList" only).Machinate wrote:Nice!!!! Goddamit, I feel like I've trawled through the whole damn net for this! Very thorough work it would seem.TheAnimal wrote:Here's another source of info about MCP: http://members.aol.com/mhigrules/MCMap.htm.
But it's a shame. Why aren't the protocols thoroughly documented with documents available on the web?
Exactly.Machinate wrote:Is this the kind of info you're looking for?TheAnimal wrote: Problem is that it doesn't show the note's numbers (i.e. the decimal or hexadecimal midi codes).
http://www.autosoft.com.hk/article/newu ... ote_no.jpg
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I know it's a little bit confusing. I put in the numbers, because there seem to be different standards for which note has the number 60 (middle C). And in a protocol it's all about numbers.Machinate wrote:yeah I saw that... Honestly I didn't understand it at all, since it had a lot of info on midi note conversion mixed in there.TheAnimal wrote: I also posted a small howto on the Tips&Tricks board a while ago:
http://www.ableton.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=28628
Actually, I'm afraid that there is not much added value - just some more encoders. But to be shure, I'd need to see the documentation.Machinate wrote:Me too, man. AFAIK the XT is a really cool addition, and has some possibilities not included in the mackieControl?TheAnimal wrote: But I'm still looking for a description of the MackieControlXT protocol. Can anybody help?
from the specs of it I assume they tell live that you're touching the fader - so they'll overwrite existing information. With proper touch-faders this data is generated automatically (by way of expensive electronics), but with something like a bcf you need to emulate it, by assigning a button or something.youri wrote:mike holiday wrote:track volume faders are assigned to pitchbend
track 1 midi chanel: 1 pitchbend
track 2 midi chanel: 2 pitchbend
and so on
and master volume on chanel 9 PB
I understand the midichannel-mapping, but what do the notes G#7 (104) - D# (111) actually do?
mbp 2.66, osx 10.6.8, 8GB ram.
Thx! That seems to be so..Machinate wrote: from the specs of it I assume they tell live that you're touching the fader - so they'll overwrite existing information.
Hm? If you run bcf in MC-mode and check the output-data (in MIDI_OX), you can see that the bcf is transmitting note on/off, too!Machinate wrote:With proper touch-faders this data is generated automatically (by way of expensive electronics), but with something like a bcf you need to emulate it, by assigning a button or something.
But in live, touching the faders while they move won't stop them!?!
Maybe ableton did miss something in the programming of mce?
We could find it out if someone with a real mackiecontrol would test this...
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will i be able to get the navigation and triggering of clips working via my uc-33??
mixes & tracks here:
http://soundcloud.com/thenarcoticcreatures
http://soundcloud.com/thenarcoticcreatures
You can even use your synth keyboard (or whatever else sends midi code) to trigger clips:nuperspective wrote:will i be able to get the navigation and triggering of clips working via my uc-33??
In the "Midi/Sync" preferences dialog go to the "Remote Control Surfaces" section (at bottom) and there set "Control Surface" to Mackie Control and "Input" to your midi interface. Then play a loud E6 (midi code 100) to launch the clip.
MackieControl does not SEND anything magic. The magic lies within the INTERPRETATION of what has been sent. If you tell Live to interpret as MCP (MackieControl Protocol) what comes from a certain midi interface it will e.g. trigger a clip as soon as it receives a loud E6 note on midi message.
And if you don't have programmable keys you just route your mide through an application like MidiPipe. That's all.
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FW1884 using MC with FCB1010?
This is great info- thanks!
I use the Mackie Control interface (with a TASCAM FW1884) already, and an FCB1010 for live looping. Does anyone know if I will be able to use both of these devices together with the method Machinate and others have described in this thread?
Matt
Boston, MA
I use the Mackie Control interface (with a TASCAM FW1884) already, and an FCB1010 for live looping. Does anyone know if I will be able to use both of these devices together with the method Machinate and others have described in this thread?
Matt
Boston, MA
Yes, of course. That's exactly what I've been describing in my howto http://www.ableton.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=28628. My setup is MCU and MFC10. If you happen to be on Windows you'll have to find out which apps to use to merge and modify midi, though. But that should be an easy job. Or you could merge midi in hardware and program your FCB1010 so that no midi modification is needed.