Help. Live not working with MT4 & OS 9.2

leeboy · Post by **leeboy** » Wed May 01, 2002 11:26 pm

Hello. I\'ve got four weeks to get a live set together for SONAR and I reckon I want to use Live + a MIDI controller (not sure which though. Pocket Control & Freak Live are too small. Has anyone used a Niche controller ?)

BUT I cannot get the demo to respond to MIDI.

Powerbook G3, 400 Mhz, 512 Ram, 9.2 & MT4

Installed OMS 2.3.8 several times but it doesn\'t see the MT4 (I don\'t think). I can select something called an Inter Application Something or Other ...... in Live but it still doesn\'t respond. Am I being stupid ? I\'ve never had to use OMS before as I only use Logic.

Can anyone help ?

submodern · Post by **submodern** » Wed May 01, 2002 11:45 pm

since opcode bit the dust, oms hasn't been updated and new hardware drivers are no longer included with the oms install. try downloading the unitor oms driver from emagic.

http://www.emagic.de/english/support/do ... lsmac.html

leeboy · Post by **leeboy** » Fri May 03, 2002 5:19 pm

thanks submodern, it's all working fine now and I am LOVING it ! Yeh. Just need to figure out which controller to go for now.

I'll be performing with Live at La Paloma in Barcelona on Thursday 15th June.....

FrankH · Post by **FrankH** » Sat May 04, 2002 11:22 am

Hi,

Me diehard-Pocket-Dial-user like to announce folowing:
I made a template song (for my own sake) with 942 contolers assigend.
The Pocket Dial has got 16 controlers (times) 4 banks (times) 16 midi channels, that equals 1024 controlers. It's realy bizarrr what controling posibilities ya got, a 24 track (Live) project, with eq, compression and/or delay on each track, all controlled by one Pocket Dial. In future i'll use a 10 meter midi cable, and perform front-stage or walk around.

Alternatives for Pocket Dial, other devices sending relative controlers:
Surface One, i find it ugly and it's much to expensive,
10 Controll, big brother of NI 4 Controll, nice for controling hardware, no need for such expensive device to controll software,
Freak Live, i don't know that controler,
...

BTW, i use Pocket Dial preset 111 for relative controlers.
BTW, i don't have shares or any other relationship with Doepfer.

Enjoy the music,

Frank

leeboy · Post by **leeboy** » Sat May 04, 2002 11:39 am

Thanks Frank. The Control Live is by Kenton. The Pocket Dial looks great but I want BIG KNOBS ! Yeh baby. Do you reckon you could put a guitar strap on the Doepfer ? That would be cool. I like the look of the Midiman Surface One but it\'s not going to be available until July / August.

Does anyone know if you can use the MIDI in on an Oxygen 8 to merge the data from another controller (maybe Pocket Dial) ? If that was the case I wouldn\'t need to bring a MIDI interface...

submodern · Post by **submodern** » Sat May 04, 2002 7:23 pm

there is no midi in port on the oxygen 8, unfortunately... just two midi outs (oxygen out and usb out). only data from the oxygen itself gets sent in.

chris_borgia · Post by **chris_borgia** » Sat May 04, 2002 9:59 pm

FrankH wrote: In future i'll use a 10 meter midi cable, and perform front-stage or walk around.
Frank

That is what i indend to do as well, only i find that i need to power the pocket dial... do you find that you need power to pd? 15 feet of midi is not big deal, but i cant find a 15 foot wallwart powersuply. If you dont use a power supply and your midi interface is previding the power.. what interface are you useing.

::chris::

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Tue May 07, 2002 9:35 am

Hi Lee,

> I want BIG KNOBS ! Yeh baby.

Those endless Dials are about 2cm in diagonal. Compared to PhatBoy pots, those are about 1.5cm.
Pots on standard mixing consoles have knobs of about 1 to 1,5cm.

Bigger is better, i'm also thinking about building my own controler, with big dials and big triggers.
I like the Doepfer CTM64 (contact to midi) kit for building a board of 64 triggers.
Those are future plans.

> guitar strap
Like the remote of a crane driver?
COOL, i haven't thought about that.

> ..your midi interface is previding the power..

No i use the Pocket Dial power supply. Power on the midi-in is not enough, according to Doepfer.
I'm thinking of putting both in one custom made cable.
Using a cable with 5 wires. 3 for midi and 2 for power. Put connectors on both ends of the cable and you got ONE cable.
A length of 15 meter / 45 foot should be posible.
...

The art of controling...

Frank Heijkamp

FrankH · Post by **FrankH** » Tue May 07, 2002 9:48 am

Sorry for posting anony...

Also very interesting:
http://www.midiman.de/namm.htm
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MidAir Wireless MIDI From Midiman
Midiman s new MidAir Wireless MIDI system uses a frequency hopping spread spectrum system in 2.4 GHz license free band for glitch-free wireless interfacing at a distance of 50 feet and beyond. Forward error correction stops corrupted midi data. Simultaneous operation of up to 4 systems is possible using Midiman s unique hopping codes. The MidAir can be powered either with an AC adaptor or internal AAA batteries.
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Keep the cable as backup. Get wireless!!!
The power issue can be solved by battery's.

Live is Fun

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Help. Live not working with MT4 & OS 9.2

Help. Live not working with MT4 & OS 9.2

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