antivirus SW that won't interfere w/ Laptop performance?

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Post by subterFUSE » Sun Dec 11, 2005 10:36 pm

I have never had a single virus, ever. Not a single one.
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Post by forge » Mon Dec 12, 2005 12:10 am

telekom wrote:As another user said, keeping your laptop off the internet is the best defence against internet nasties. :(
I dont consider that a reasonable option. These machines are intended to be used as tools and not using them for something you need to do because you're scared of viruses to me is a cop out. I've been fine with NAV and XPs firewall. Used to use zone alarm but found it a bit annoying.

The measures are there and there really is no justification for keeping your PC offline. Having it offline would be a major hassle for me, especially considering I actually do audio work and upload it and beta test and upload files, send emails etc.

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Post by drush » Mon Dec 12, 2005 12:12 am

btw - rob that suggestion i made to you last month about creating a boot file partition will go long way in terms of keeping you unvirus'd

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Post by claudek » Mon Dec 12, 2005 6:02 am

Never had one virus. PC on most of day, cabled to internet.
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Post by chis » Mon Dec 12, 2005 2:54 pm

Hope I'm not too late to reply to this.

Do NOT use Internet Security packages. They, by their nature, consume a fair amount of CPU time just protecting your PC. And while this is certainly something worth doing on an internet-connected PC (especially one that is connected all the time), on a music PC such services are overkill.

I'd recommend using a small Antivirus-only package such as Grisoft AVG or AntiVir. They do the job perfectly well and don't slow your PC down to an unreasonable degree (*glares at Symantec*).

As for spyware, use a different web browser! Mozilla Firefox or Opera will block pop-ups; pop-ups are where 99% of Internet-hosted virii and spyware come from. A spyware guard such as Giant/MS AntiSpyware is overkill on a music PC, and will consume unnecessary CPU time.
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Post by rikhyray » Mon Dec 12, 2005 4:00 pm

SP2 firewall is fine no need for anything else, Anti-vir is fine too.
However i consider anyone using internet and pro music apllication on the same partition- "less informed" . Having Norton on music pc totaly insane. Though if you just hobby "producer" never perform with the notebook it is OK.
Simple solution, that I use, is having internet, office, what not partition, and Live there too( all Live files are on Projects partition anyway so can be accessed from Internet/Office or MusicWorkstation). So I can check E mail, this forum while rendering or auditioning. The other benefit is that any beta test of Live or any testing can be done without pollutiing your proper music setup. On my proper music partition there is no network, only 9 services- 83 MB RAM default, these are not even deactivated, they were never installed since I use my custom mega light Nlite XP pro.
I find all those beta tester whinning silly, who ask them to test with what you earn their bread with?
My Live 3,4 , 5 never really gave me trouble for simple reason, I never ask for trouble.

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Post by ishimaru » Mon Dec 12, 2005 4:19 pm

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Post by chis » Mon Dec 12, 2005 6:31 pm

rikhyray wrote:SP2 firewall is fine no need for anything else, Anti-vir is fine too.
However i consider anyone using internet and pro music apllication on the same partition- "less informed" .
I am not "less informed". My music PC is connected to my network, and I do run a software firewall. If I'm doing any music work, I do this:

1. Disable the network connection.
2. Disable the virus guard.
3. Disable the firewall.
4. Quit out of any other superfluous apps running on the system tray.
5. Load Live and do stuff.
6. Restart the PC and everything loads again.

Just don't use your music PC to browse the net to just anywhere - stick to sites like Ableton, or your audio/music hardware manufacturers websites etc. And definitely don't use any P2P apps. Use another PC to do that stuff.
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Post by gaspode » Mon Dec 12, 2005 7:16 pm

Best bet.... disconnect your laptop from all network connections and then just disable your firewall/anti virus. With most laptops that have integrated wireless this is pretty easy with the flick of a switch or a key combination. Just make sure you don't use any untrusted hard drives/cds or other media while your guard is down.

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Post by kennerb » Mon Dec 12, 2005 8:24 pm

Hey forge if it is SAV Corporat 9 or later it can be set to start with windows. It basically loads as a driver. So if anyone is seeing performance problems after shutting off autoprotect then it would be best to change how SAV loads. SAV 10 has spyware and adware detection and removal that is very good. Definitions have already been developed to detect root kits so that is pretty much covered.

To whoever said that SAV makes their machines slow. It is how you have it configured. You should SHUT OFF email plug-ins. They suck and I wish they would take them out. Change realtime scanning to scan on create or modify only. That way it is not scanning every file every time. Shutting off network scanning is advisable too if you are on a network.

I have been running SAV for years on most of my machines and have not had performance issues. I definitely shut it off while working in Live though.

Anything that is running on your system at that low of a level and is monitoring activity is going to have an effect on cpu load period.
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Post by robtronik » Mon Dec 12, 2005 9:06 pm

one thing I did notice was that my latency settings had to be made larger for my soundcard after installing the two pieces of software. I went from 6 milliseconds to 12. No big deal, but I was getting crackling before I upped it (but after I installed the protection software).

No big deal, but there was a slight performance hit there.

BTW, I did use a powerbook G4 1.67 ghz. but I sold it last week because I was pissed about the performance. This PC laptop will do just fine until Mac goes Intel AND they can show similar or better benchmarks than my current PC laptop.

:)

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