AAC Audio Support

noisetonepause · Post by **noisetonepause** » Sun Dec 11, 2005 11:49 pm

AAC is better than MP3 if you're a DJ worried about sound quality.

hambone1 · Post by **hambone1** » Mon Dec 12, 2005 8:45 am

I don't understand why the AAC issue (or any other compression scheme) is so important. Hard drives are dirt-cheap nowadays, and AIFFs/WAVs need no CPU-stealing compression/decompression.

radeon · Post by **radeon** » Mon Dec 12, 2005 3:40 pm

hambone1 wrote:I don't understand why the AAC issue (or any other compression scheme) is so important. Hard drives are dirt-cheap nowadays, and AIFFs/WAVs need no CPU-stealing compression/decompression.

Me to. I would never use mp3 in song in case i had to

icedsushi · Post by **icedsushi** » Mon Dec 12, 2005 7:29 pm

AAC is obviously nice because you can use your whole itunes library that's already ripped from CD's if you wanna dj mix stuff for fun. .wavs aren't as practical for itunes or ipods...and mp3 sound quality is "just OK". AAC format is also usable to people on any platform and is pretty much the standard now for anyone with a mac.

Without AAC in Live, most mac people will have 2 libraries of the same material. One for itunes/ipod collection and another uncompressed library of the exact same songs for use in Ableton. AAC is not a good production tool for multitracking and whatnot. That's not the point. It's a djing and archiving/library convenience for finished songs. If Live has mp3 already, why not AAC for the rest of us?

If you don't use it yourself, no biggie...but maybe you can understand why other people do.

It's by no means an emergency for me personally, but it would be a really nice addition. Icing on the cake.

noisetonepause · Post by **noisetonepause** » Tue Dec 13, 2005 11:19 am

hambone1 wrote:I don't understand why the AAC issue (or any other compression scheme) is so important. Hard drives are dirt-cheap nowadays, and AIFFs/WAVs need no CPU-stealing compression/decompression.

Dirt cheap but not very practical. And I've got all my music as MP3s/AACs on my lappie anyways...

Even an iBook G4

can handle playing back quite a few MP3s at a time, so doubt CPU use is an issue for anyone.

kineticUk · Post by **kineticUk** » Sat Dec 17, 2005 5:36 pm

Come on ableton
Sort it Please

Cryptic UK · Post by **Cryptic UK** » Mon Dec 19, 2005 6:43 pm

Hi radeon,

were not talking about mp3 here its all about ACC, as it sounds better.

i would never use mp3 or ACC to make tunes with either, its just for DJing.

Cryptic UK · Post by **Cryptic UK** » Mon Jan 02, 2006 7:38 pm

Are all you DJs not worried about sound quality? because Mp3 sounds like cak ca, it makes good tunes sound bad especially when its loud in a club.

so come on ableton let us dj with better sound quality please.

Thank you

I love live by the way.

radeon · Post by **radeon** » Sun Jan 08, 2006 10:33 am

Alex wrote:Hi folks,

just to clarify a few things. If we would add AAC support it would only include Non-DRM AAC.
So for instance, protected AAC files you bought from iTunes Music Store would not be supported.

Beside that we try to give AAC a priority boost on our endless improvement list.
But it will not make it into a bug fix update.

regards,
/Alex

I am dissapointtedd

Why you ableton comment on something that is not so important after MANY important request things from poeple like groove Quantise and group and solo optoins and many more. I dont used mp3 support one time in live I wont use aac to play audio file support. I WOULD USE mp3 and AAC mixdown support.

Hard drive is cheap NO need to have aac mp3 for playing back audio. But so it isnt mp3 support in live 5 really is it!. Live converted all mp3 to wav so where is space saving? and there is no misdown to mp3 so what was the big point of the so important mp3.
Maybe aac will increase sale i think

djshiva · Post by **djshiva** » Mon Jan 09, 2006 6:04 am

radeon wrote:
Hard drive is cheap NO need to have aac mp3 for playing back audio. But so it isnt mp3 support in live 5 really is it!. Live converted all mp3 to wav so where is space saving? and there is no misdown to mp3 so what was the big point of the so important mp3.
Maybe aac will increase sale i think

i keep seeing posts like this mentioning the cheapness of hard drives, and that's fine and dandy and all, but what about those of us who ALREADY HAVE OUR COLLECTIONS CONVERTED TO AAC?

when i realized the sound quality of AAC versus MP3, coupled with the smaller file size, i encoded my CD collection to AAC.

sure i could buy another harddrive, but what good is it gonna do me when most of my stuff is already encoded? not to mention, hard drives may be cheap, but how many do you want to carry around with you?

so yeah...consider this another vote for AAC support.

kineticUk · Post by **kineticUk** » Tue Jan 17, 2006 12:45 pm

Bump
Still really looking forward to ableton pulling their finger out and sorting us with AAC support.
Please if this doesnt interest you dont bother trying to argue your stupid buy a big hard drive case and make a post and talk to someone who is interested.
This post is for ableton to see people use AAC and need to mix them.

Cryptic UK · Post by **Cryptic UK** » Wed Jan 18, 2006 11:49 am

Hi,

Just finished converting my whole music collection to AAC, just waiting on ableton to include AAC so i can start DJing because im not putting up with the shitty sound of mp3. I dont know about anyone else but i really care about sound quality and i cant understand why ableton are not including this.

pepezabala · Post by **pepezabala** » Thu Jan 19, 2006 1:29 pm

Cryptic UK wrote:Hi,

Just finished converting my whole music collection to AAC, just waiting on ableton to include AAC so i can start DJing because im not putting up with the shitty sound of mp3. I dont know about anyone else but i really care about sound quality and i cant understand why ableton are not including this.

Bad luck. So you won't be able to use those files on most players.

AAC is a corporate file-format which is used to prevent people from exchanging files bought at itunes-musicstore. It's an "anti-filesharing"-format.

It does not sound any better than mp3.

Cryptic UK · Post by **Cryptic UK** » Thu Jan 19, 2006 4:11 pm

pepezabala wrote:
Cryptic UK wrote:Hi,

Just finished converting my whole music collection to AAC, just waiting on ableton to include AAC so i can start DJing because im not putting up with the shitty sound of mp3. I dont know about anyone else but i really care about sound quality and i cant understand why ableton are not including this.

Bad luck. So you won't be able to use those files on most players.

AAC is a corporate file-format which is used to prevent people from exchanging files bought at itunes-musicstore. It's an "anti-filesharing"-format.

It does not sound any better than mp3.

Who said anything about file sharing? read the whole post its all there.

And You apparently have no ears.

forgie · Post by **forgie** » Sat Jan 21, 2006 8:15 am

pepezabala wrote:
Cryptic UK wrote:Hi,

Just finished converting my whole music collection to AAC, just waiting on ableton to include AAC so i can start DJing because im not putting up with the shitty sound of mp3. I dont know about anyone else but i really care about sound quality and i cant understand why ableton are not including this.

Bad luck. So you won't be able to use those files on most players.

AAC is a corporate file-format which is used to prevent people from exchanging files bought at itunes-musicstore. It's an "anti-filesharing"-format.

It does not sound any better than mp3.

Dude.... where do I start....
AAC can be played in iTunes, Winamp, WMP (there was an AAC plugin at one stage, dunno if it still exists). It can also be played on iPods, Playstation Portable, and most music playing mobile phones. As far as I know, Traktor has supported AAC for some time.

At the same bitrate, it has far superior quality to MP3. Try comparing a 128kbps AAC to MP3 side-by-side. There's no comparison.

AAC is not 'a corporate format'. It has DRM capabilities, but it wasn't even invented by Apple, it's an MP4 standard. Apple just added DRM for it's iTMS downloads.

If you don't buy your AAC file from Apple, then it has no DRM, and no "anti-filesharing" shit in it. Get your facts straight before spinning shit man.