Intel gear is around the corner

hellospiral · Post by **hellospiral** » Mon Dec 12, 2005 8:13 pm

Here we are:

http://www.thinksecret.com/news/0512briefly.html

Mac people will probably be faster on Ableton?

Ambioun - Techno Man · Post by **Ambioun - Techno Man** » Tue Dec 13, 2005 12:37 am

Well I had been monitoring this for awhile and I'm 99.9% sure its happening. I plan on buying one once I have funds avaible. Will surly replace my aging G4 tower that is a piece of shit.

robtronik · Post by **robtronik** » Tue Dec 13, 2005 12:44 am

I'm going to wait until a revsion is provided and Ableton provides the right binary type native to the Intel version for Mac OS X.

Then I'll jump back in assuming the performance is comparable or better than what I have currently.

rob.

gomi · Post by **gomi** » Tue Dec 13, 2005 12:47 am

robtronik wrote:I'm going to wait until a revsion is provided and Ableton provides the right binary type native to the Intel version for Mac OS X.

same here
although i can't wait to give a dual core intel based powerbook a test
drive.

drush · Post by **drush** » Tue Dec 13, 2005 1:01 am

for that you will be waiting a lot longer

Angstrom · Post by **Angstrom** » Tue Dec 13, 2005 2:14 am

hmm, hard to tell on that.
But, I wouldn't bet on a long wait for a dual core myself. The internal date is supposed to bemid Januaryfor MacIntel powerbooks too.

Yonah is available in 2 types : dual core and single core.
I am guessing the new ibooks will be single to make the best use of battery life and lower power consumption.
But the powerbooks will most likely be dualcore as the power-users are obviously expecting a degree more oomph and will accept a trade off on battery.

As for waiting for Ableton to code a native version, I wonder if your Live OSX-PPC version through Roseta will actually run faster on a Yonah than Live OSX on an old G4.
I am guessing that Live5 will be faster through Rosetta on a macintel Powerbook than on an old g4 powerbook !
Why? because Live has no Altivec to translate, it's all pretty platform independent. This is one time I think that you Mac users will be glad of that, very glad.

lets see if I'm right and we see a dualcore yonah macintel in early feb running Live 5 faster than a g4 powerbook! Then we can all start bugging them to optimise for dual core

M. Bréqs · Post by **M. Bréqs** » Tue Dec 13, 2005 2:30 am

I'll wait for AdamJay's Live benchmark tests to collect a few reports on the new Intel Macs before I even think about switching back.

Don't mind me, I'm an Apple Apostate - a former Mac nut who returned to PC, so my POV is a little skewed. I have had nothing but grief from Macs.

nebulae · Post by **nebulae** » Tue Dec 13, 2005 3:08 am

Breqs, I'm with you all the way. Not to start a processor war, but I'll take the minor Windows headaches (which are fairly minor with XP when you turn off the unnecessary Bill Gates crap) and have the options of faster and cheaper machines any day. I used to love Macs, but at some point, the value of PCs really won me over.

Not to say Apple isn't inventive and creative, but what really pisses me off are business practices like selling people an iPod where you can't exchange the battery yourself. What the shit is that?

nebulae · Post by **nebulae** » Tue Dec 13, 2005 3:09 am

I just realized the shit-storm I'm about to get with that last post. Let me try to mitigate by saying I still love all you Mac users. My wife is a Mac user (bleh!). And I'm sure the cult of Mac will survive long after I'm dead and buried.

capta1nA · Post by **capta1nA** » Tue Dec 13, 2005 3:19 am

getting off topic, but yes you can change the battery yourself.

sqook · Post by **sqook** » Tue Dec 13, 2005 3:22 am

Rumor has it that the new mac intel machines won't have firewire support. Could be a deal-breaker....

Johnisfaster · Post by **Johnisfaster** » Tue Dec 13, 2005 3:23 am

ohhhhh how do you do that? my ipods battery needs replacing sometime soon.

M. Bréqs · Post by **M. Bréqs** » Tue Dec 13, 2005 3:40 am

sqook wrote:Rumor has it that the new mac intel machines won't have firewire support. Could be a deal-breaker....

Agreed - that would be a 100% deal breaker. I just bought an Ozonic!

mcconaghy · Post by **mcconaghy** » Tue Dec 13, 2005 4:51 am

sqook wrote:Rumor has it that the new mac intel machines won't have firewire support. Could be a deal-breaker....

Probably nonsense, they're most likely going to drop the slower FW400 support and go FW800 all the way. Why have 2 different FW chipsets on a logic board when the faster is backward compatible?

drush · Post by **drush** » Tue Dec 13, 2005 6:08 am

Angstrom wrote:hmm, hard to tell on that.
But, I wouldn't bet on a long wait for a dual core myself. The internal date is supposed to bemid Januaryfor MacIntel powerbooks too.

i will happily eat crow if that is the case; i really i hope it is. however i work next to an apple office (not store) and i very seriously doubt if we'll see powerbooks near that fast.