help with garageband midi instruments and LIVE

futurica · Post by **futurica** » Mon Dec 12, 2005 7:33 am

sorry if this has been dealt with...i didnt see anything about specifically this:
im using live 5.02 with OSX,and i have a little oxyegn 8 midi keyboard.
i really like some of the midi instrument sounds from garageband, such as ones in the jampacks, and am wondering if i can synch the two up to record them in LIVE.
im not talking about the appleloops....
any help wouldbe greatly appreciated!
thanks

olivierseb · Post by **olivierseb** » Mon Dec 12, 2005 11:21 am

futurica wrote:sorry if this has been dealt with...i didnt see anything about specifically this:
im using live 5.02 with OSX,and i have a little oxyegn 8 midi keyboard.
i really like some of the midi instrument sounds from garageband, such as ones in the jampacks, and am wondering if i can synch the two up to record them in LIVE.
im not talking about the appleloops....
any help wouldbe greatly appreciated!
thanks

hello,
yes you have to route audio from garageband into Live.
I suggest to use somehting like the apple built in AUnetsend or soundflower.
For midi I think the best is to reigger GaragBand directly with you midi keyboard in paralel with Live.
If you want Live to play the GarageBand instruments, you have to use a virtual midi port between Live and GB, though I am not sure GB will let you choose wich midi port will be used for midi in, I guess GB get all the midi ports coming in.

I hope this will help.

olivier

kenoflife · Post by **kenoflife** » Fri Dec 16, 2005 5:17 pm

How would one set up the port, so that the GB instruments
could be used while on a midi track in live, or playing back
a midi track? I've tried playing with the IAC driver,
using external sync?, just don't get it....I've read it
can be a complicated procedure w/ Logic....is there an
easy way through with GB??

mhand · Post by **mhand** » Thu Dec 22, 2005 8:15 pm

One trick I've discovered is:

Create a Simpler track in Live

In finder go to Macintosh HD/Library/Application Support/Garageband/Instrument Library/Sampler/Sampler Files

in here you'll find the aif files that garageband uses and you can simply drop these onto Simpler as the sample waveform.

Some of the 'real' instruments start to sound a bit artifical if you move down or up and octave but some would argue that this is not necessarily a bad thing.

Would be interested to know if anyone has managed to rewire into garageband. for me, sometimes it works and sometimes it doesn't but i've not figured out what i'm doing right to make it work yet!

Cheers
Martin

kenoflife · Post by **kenoflife** » Fri Dec 23, 2005 12:52 am

That's pretty cool....but the aiff files are gargantuan, one file for every note of the
instrument I guess..is that how its commonly done with files for instruments?
.so if I choose a particular note on an octave to use on the simpler, than beyond that an octave or so it will sound less 'real'?

olivierseb · Post by **olivierseb** » Fri Dec 23, 2005 8:16 am

kenoflife wrote:That's pretty cool....but the aiff files are gargantuan, one file for every note of the
instrument I guess..is that how its commonly done with files for instruments?
.so if I choose a particular note on an octave to use on the simpler, than beyond that an octave or so it will sound less 'real'?

You can play the samples with EXSP24, the plugin version (Au or VST)of EXS24.
But I am not sure if it is discontinued or not.
Sorry

olivier

hambone1 · Post by **hambone1** » Fri Dec 23, 2005 10:23 am

I dumped Garage Band from my new Mac as soon as I got it. The samples sound useful, though.

Are the samples used in Garage Band on any of the Mac install disks? I've had a quick scan and can't see anything on them. Do I need to do a Garage Band install to get access to the samples?

olivierseb · Post by **olivierseb** » Fri Dec 23, 2005 12:41 pm

hambone1 wrote:I dumped Garage Band from my new Mac as soon as I got it. The samples sound useful, though.

Are the samples used in Garage Band on any of the Mac install disks? I've had a quick scan and can't see anything on them. Do I need to do a Garage Band install to get access to the samples?

The samples are installed only if you install Garage band (you do need ilife dvd is you own a powermac or powerbook, for ibook, imac, emac and mac mini it could be with restoration dvds but I don't know exactly if all restorations DVDs contain garageBand.

if you can do GB isntall they will be here:
library/application support/garageband/instrument library/sampler

olivier

kenoflife · Post by **kenoflife** » Fri Dec 23, 2005 5:20 pm

the samples are there, but they do not (even w/ reverb and effects removed) sound
the same with the simpler as with GB....not even close...but what's interesting is that you can find samples such as 'taiko drum' that don't seem accessible through GB....what I've been trying is taking the C5 version of the sample to put into the Simpler - since that is relatively on the same pitch...
Ideally though, I'd like to play the instruments directly through using Live, which
I believe is possible with Logic, through a complicated route....

RobertX · Post by **RobertX** » Fri Dec 30, 2005 5:24 am

A nice thing about using these samples is that you could distribute Simpler and Impulse presets without getting Apple on your back. Anyone with Garage Band could use them, since the samples would be located in the in the same directory path on everyone's machine.

kenoflife · Post by **kenoflife** » Fri Dec 30, 2005 6:38 am

indeed, and I'm getting to enjoy using them with Impulse to get some good
organic grooves going - like with the marimbas...
in fact, I was despairing a little in learning Live as I kept working with little
sketches and ideas from samples that were more electronic -
interesting to think of a community of folks that were plugged into the GB
samples and were exchanging - especially if the orchestral pack became
integrated in later versions...

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