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Post by mike holiday » Tue Dec 20, 2005 3:35 am

Moody wrote:What is techno?
techno is house music!!

(almost)

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Post by mike holiday » Tue Dec 20, 2005 3:51 am

hambone1 wrote:I'd like to hear some of the original Detroit techno.

Any recommendations for the original, non-commercial tracks?

um theres a paperclip people cd "the sectert tapes of dr. eich"
on planet e ... it's nice old school carl craig


and a really really good one called "Detroit sound" covers 81-99
i tried to find a link but came up short

adonis I like that shit your talkin about (but you forgot beyer and lekebusch)

however the minamal/micro sound is totally consuming me these days but i still like it banging.. i like to cover all these sides of techno in my set (makes nice waves)

really i like it most because it is fun to beat mix...the simplicy of the tracks makes them work well for mad mixing and tricks.

plus it seems like all the best (skillz wise) dj's are playing it to

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Post by mike holiday » Tue Dec 20, 2005 3:54 am

djadonis206 wrote: Minimal, appreciated live - well first Minimal needs a beat, any kind of drum beat will do - second random blips and blops don't make people dance - third how are people suppose to dance to something you can barely hear?

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Post by amo » Tue Dec 20, 2005 7:03 am

mike holiday wrote:(but you forgot beyer and lekebusch)
That's stuff worth checking also ! And they're not dead ! ;-)
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Post by lola » Tue Dec 20, 2005 12:41 pm

listen to a guy called gerald and the mayday mix from AUTOMANIKK. 1990 i think it is.

Carl Craig's psyche on transmat.

Cybotrons Cosmic cars from 1982 i think

k alexi shelby all for lee sah on transmat

Some of the stuff on the Shiver label mid 90's from holland

Black dog from england , a fusion between detroit tech and breakbeats mid 90.

Model 500's ocean to ocean.

And so on and so on.

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Post by wavejumper » Tue Dec 20, 2005 2:34 pm

hambone1 wrote:I'd like to hear some of the original Detroit techno.

Any recommendations for the original, non-commercial tracks?
drexciya
Underground resistance
Red planet (aka the martian)
Jeff Mills
Carl Craig
Juan Atkins
Kevin Saunderson
Robert Hood
Derrick May
Kenny Larkin
Stacey Pullen
Ectomorph


if you find it there's a comp on React called True People, it's got tunes from most of the above.

other detroit producers not doing strictly techno are Moodyman and Theo Parrish, Recloose, Omar S...

a lot of good stuff being released regularly, people saying techno is dead have been watching too much Pop Idol.

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Post by robin » Tue Dec 20, 2005 3:20 pm

wavejumper wrote: a lot of good stuff being released regularly, people saying techno is dead have been watching too much Pop Idol.
In terms of clubbing and vinyl sales for a particular release (most releases typically 1000 max nowadays) i'd say techno was in a lull but is not dead.

In a lot of places techno doesn't draw people in to clubs anymore too.

In terms of the quality of stuff that is coming out i'd say we've had a particularly good year for techno (check rush hours family of labels, new religion, iridite, digital soul modern love, point one etc etc for proof).[/b]

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Post by Hervé » Tue Dec 20, 2005 3:33 pm

lola wrote:Black dog from england , a fusion between detroit tech and breakbeats mid 90.
Black dog, Half of Plaid actually http://www.warprecords.com/?section=art ... artist=PLD. worth a listen but it's more on the electronica side...

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Post by wavejumper » Tue Dec 20, 2005 3:43 pm

robin wrote:
wavejumper wrote: In terms of the quality of stuff that is coming out i'd say we've had a particularly good year for techno (check rush hours family of labels, new religion, iridite, digital soul modern love, point one etc etc for proof).[/b]
totally, and then if you look beyond the limited scope of what people call techno you have the broken beat scene with nubian minds, mustang, bugs in the attic, the electro revival with drexciya, dynarec, utlradyne, the quality dubby techno releases from DIN in Germany, the stuff from ableton's monolake, Anthony Shakir, surgeon and the british muder boys, clone and bunker in holland, really exciting fucking great records...if you know where to look...

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Post by djadonis206 » Tue Dec 20, 2005 4:57 pm

Thanks Mike - like I said to be fair I pull the minimal stuff off the wall just about everytime I roll into the store

the only thing so far that actually has a beat worth picking up I've heard is stuff on Perlon (but even then it's kind of like...)

Ok this (Perlon) or that (Secret Cinema)
Ok this (Ghostly) or that (INTEC)
Ok this (Trizengugerhan) or that (Pornographic)

You get where I'm coming from

Tic-Tac or MB ELECTRONIKS (I had the luxury of working out in the same gym as the man himself earlier this year at the WMC) I was talking to some cuban guy and then I saw someone out of the corner of my eye and I was like "Aren't you...?" He just smiled

Ran into him at a couple parties and he kept asking me if I was "...going to the fitness." I was drunk so i took a picture

but this picture pretty much tells you the kind of tekno I like

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Post by martin808 » Tue Dec 20, 2005 5:47 pm

robin wrote: In terms of the quality of stuff that is coming out i'd say we've had a particularly good year for techno (check rush hours family of labels, new religion, iridite, digital soul modern love, point one etc etc for proof).[/b]
thanks for mentioning point.one. I've put the link back in my sig. the tangible rekkid arrived yesterday and will be in the shops soon. there are sound clips on the site. Look out for future releases by bumper and another voltaic release in the new year.

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Post by mike holiday » Tue Dec 20, 2005 8:53 pm

djadonis206 wrote:Thanks Mike - like I said to be fair I pull the minimal stuff off the wall just about everytime I roll into the store
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check out do.mi.no. macro corola going minamal..some of his best work imho
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Post by sans soleil » Tue Dec 20, 2005 10:35 pm

...also check the 'sans soleil's' self-titled album on transmat as well as the 'dominical' ep on wave records.

heehee.

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Post by chis » Wed Dec 21, 2005 6:06 pm

ishimaru wrote:Damn I love Techno.

Minimal
Funky
Latin
Bangin'
Hard
Soft
Loud

Fuck yeah! Gimme some more. :twisted:
You've identified the problem already. What happened to THE REST of techno as a genre? Leaving out soft and loud for a bit, all that seems to be released these days is stuff that is a variation on minimal, funky, latin, bangin', hard etc. I'm fucking sick of it, and I can't be the only one that feels this way.

*Still lamenting the loss of R&S* :roll:
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Post by djadonis206 » Wed Dec 21, 2005 6:26 pm

mike holiday wrote:
djadonis206 wrote:Thanks Mike - like I said to be fair I pull the minimal stuff off the wall just about everytime I roll into the store
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check out do.mi.no. macro corola going minamal..some of his best work imho
I actually liked that record I didn't pick it up though -

have you ever noticed sometimes you see a dj play and spot his set (especially Donald) - you'll go find a few of those records and buy them - play them out and they have like 10% of the effect they had when so and so played them

that's how I felt about Domino - I could totally see Marco droppin' that and it blowing up - i could see people not dancing and leaving the dance fllor to go to the jungle room when i dropped it

good record though :)

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